[DeTomaso] Fw: machine ball joint to modify alingment

Sun May 2 22:01:28 EDT 2010

No I don't have a reading of the caster using Johnny's mod. I will be doing it alignment before the end of June and will post accordingly. I know this has been discussed quite a bit.
Mark

--- On Sun, 5/2/10, Charles Engles <cengles at cox.net> wrote:

From: Charles Engles <cengles at cox.net>
Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] Fw: machine ball joint to modify alingment
To: "'mark skwarek'" <ehpantera at yahoo.com>
Cc: detomaso at realbig.com
Date: Sunday, May 2, 2010, 9:31 PM

Dear Mark,

              Do you recall how much positive caster is now set on your
front end???

                       Curious,  Chuck Engles

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Behalf Of mark skwarek
Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2010 8:02 PM
To: Will Demelo
Cc: detomaso at realbig.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Fw: machine ball joint to modify alingment

I've had Johnny do my upper front a-arms several years ago and I couldn't be
happier.
Mark

--- On Sun, 5/2/10, Will Demelo <wdemelo at cogeco.ca> wrote:

From: Will Demelo <wdemelo at cogeco.ca>
Subject: [DeTomaso] Fw: machine ball joint to modify alingment
To: detomaso at realbig.com
Date: Sunday, May 2, 2010, 7:20 PM

He recently charged me  £170 for the job (~ $310 CDN). Pat Mical charges
$1200 USD.
His email is johnnyrwoods at aol.com
Will
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: boyd casey 
  To: Will Demelo 
  Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2010 4:34 PM
  Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] machine ball joint to modify alingment

  I looked at the link to Johnny Woods modification and it looks  great. I
have two questions. How do I get in touch with Johnny? and what does he
charge to do the modification?
  Boyd

  On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 9:06 AM, Will Demelo <wdemelo at cogeco.ca> wrote:

    Sounds like an awesome set-up.
    BTW, I'm trying to convince a local Pantera mechanical guru/engineer
machine builder to build a jig and offer the A-arm mod for us here in Canada
and the US. Johnny Woods just did mine at a very reasonable cost, but the
shipping for less than 5lbs was $250 alone. It only took him a week, but the
travel time was almost 5 weeks turnaround.
    Will
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: boyd casey 
      To: Will Demelo 
      Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2010 10:56 PM
      Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] machine ball joint to modify alingment

      No. I have a narrow body L , but I have wide and big wheels and tires
for a narrow body. I have custom made three piece forged wheels with Nitto
NT-05 tires. The tires are Nitto NT-05 235/40/18 on front ( their actual
dimensions are 25.43" Outer Diameter , 9.57"  over all width,approved rim
width must be between 8.0" and 9.5", the rears are 335/30/19 also with Nitto
NT-05's The tire dimensions are 26.89" Outer Diameter, overall width 13.31"
and approved rim width  must be 11.5" to 12.5". The wheels and tires fit the
car although the right front tire  touches the fender lip when the wheels
are turned all the way to the right lock.  I am in the process of installing
Ken Greens Brembo brake modification . For those unfamiliar with this mod 
it includes New custom made billet rear risers, new front billet hubs, new
heavy duty axles, bearings, billet hats. It does away with the half shafts
and replaces them with CV joints. You supply the Brembo
calipers ( they are from a Porsche 968 ( a 911 Turbo) custom Coleman rotors
with directional vents , gas vents on the rotor faces  , over 1" thick
13.25" wide on front and 13.1" on the rear. Once I started the installation
I realized some of my bushings were a little worn so I decided to rebuild
the whole suspension while I had it apart. I am having the a-arms powder
coated. I am replacing the bushings with Poly graphite bushings. I replaced
the Koni's I had (old oil filled) with new nitrogen adjustable with 300 lb
front springs and 450 lb rear springs. I also replaced all the hardware with
stainless steel. So I will have an all new suspension with the best Brembo 4
piston calipers, huge rotors, Koni''s , the best (opinion ) bushings with
zerk fittings added to the a-arms to grease the bushings, Dennis Quella's
camber locks, Konis shocks also from Dennis Quella  set up by him the same
as on his Pantera race car, a CNC dual master cylinder with built
in balance bar and braided stainless brake lines. So I have read about a
mod that incorporates machining .001 from the ball joint that is supposed to
increase the available caster or camber but I don't remember the details. So
with all I have  done I want to make sure I get the best set up I can out of
what I have.
      Boyd

      On Sat, May 1, 2010 at 9:30 PM, Will Demelo <wdemelo at cogeco.ca> wrote:

        Yes. Send it to Johnny Woods and he'll modify for the required
additional 5 deg needed.
        Just kidding, kinda. Apparently, machining the balljoint will only
give you a small amount of caster. Not the maount you need for a widebody
with wide fronts. Do you have a widebody?
        WIll
        ----- Original Message ----- From: "boyd casey" <boyd411 at gmail.com>
        To: "De Tomaso List" <detomaso at realbig.com>
        Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2010 5:48 PM
        Subject: [DeTomaso] machine ball joint to modify alingment

          Can some one out line the procedure  for machining the ball joint
to improve
          or increase the caster or camber available while alignment on a 73
Panteras
          suspension.
          Please explain the process and the principal if you know and can
take the
          time to explain it. Thanks,
          Boyd

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