[DeTomaso] What I have for Shocks

Mon Mar 29 19:01:35 EDT 2010

I suggest a less high-tech approach.  I once offered my then-8 year old $10
to ride in my trunk to tell me where a noise was.  He declined, proving
intelligence improves in subsequent generations.

On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 6:20 PM, <asajay at asajay.com> wrote:

> That's ingenious!
>
> Asa Jay
>
> Quoting Larry - Ohio Time Corp <larry at ohiotimecorp.com>:
>
> > Asa Jay,
> >
> > You may want to try this as it has worked for me for toooo many years.
> Find
> > or make a small flat steel disk about the size of a penny. Weld on a
> small
> > screw that will fit into some plastic aquarium hose. Buy 20' of hose and
> an
> > earth magnet the same size as the steel disk.
> >
> > Attach the magnet and disk to the spot you think the noise is coming
> from.
> > Plug one end of the hose onto the disk screw and the other end into your
> > ear.
> >
> > Go for a ride and move the magnet around till you find the spot of the
> > noise.
> >
> > Warning it is a good idea to tape the hose down as it is no fun having it
> > ripped from your ear when driving.
> >
> > Larry (knows nuttin) - Cleveland
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com]
> On
> > Behalf Of Asa Jay Laughton
> > Sent: Monday, March 29, 2010 3:46 PM
> > To: detomaso at realbig.com
> > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] What I have for Shocks
> >
> > It sounds like it's coming from the right front.  But I also have
> > experience with noises transmitting to other corners.  You're
> > suggestion is a good one, albeit a bit time consuming.  Since I plan
> > to work on the car tonight, to isolate the sway bar, I may do this
> > swap test next.
> >
> > Asa Jay
> >
> > Quoting Tomas Gunnarsson <guson at home.se>:
> >
> >> If nothing else shows up, swap the shocks left to right and see if the
> > noise
> >> moves. You said it was from one side only, didn't you?
> >>
> >> Tomas
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com
> >> [mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com]On Behalf Of Asa Jay Laughton
> >> Sent: den 29 mars 2010 05:34
> >> To: detomaso at realbig.com
> >> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] What I have for Shocks
> >>
> >>
> >> Yes, the stock spring spacers were removed when I had the shocks out
> >> originally and waiting for the a-arms to return.
> >>
> >> I had the front end up in the air half a dozen times today.  I have
> >> evaluated everything I possibly can.  The bushing in the steering rack
> >> is in place, I even slid the boot down to check visually.  I moved the
> >> tires from the right to the left and watched what happened.  The bushing
> >> stays in place.  The rack does not move (outside its normal travel)
> >> either by trying to flex the wheel or by hand, either with the wheel on
> >> the ground (suspension loaded) or off the ground (suspension unloaded).
> >> All the a-arm connections appear to be tight.  All joints at the body
> >> appear to be good, no cracks that I could find.  New ball joints, again,
> >> tight.
> >>
> >> I even checked the spindle to the steering arm bolts (three of them) and
> >> they were tight.  I've checked pretty much every suggestion that has
> >> come my way and I still have this noise.  It really does sound like the
> >> steering rack but the rack isn't it that I can diagnose.
> >>
> >> The -only- thing not replaced on the front end are the coil-over
> >> shocks.  I can't get this noise to replicate in the garage on the
> >> floor.  I even took an eight foot 2x4 under the wheel and tried to
> >> leverage the wheel to get the noise, still no-go.  I seem to get it
> >> readily if I'm driving it over small bumps.
> >>
> >> My last ditch is the shocks.  I can't cough up the money for new ones at
> >> the moment, though I'd dearly love to.  One forum member thought he had
> >> some extra originals but now can't find them.  If anyone else has a
> >> front set laying around, I'd greatly appreciate even just borrowing them
> >> for a short while to troubleshoot this noise.
> >>
> >> I'm guessing at this point there is something wrong internally with the
> >> shock that manifests itself over bumps, but again I can't be sure.  The
> >> car seems to drive fine, track fine on the road and it performed well at
> >> the autocross.  It's just driving me crazy.
> >>
> >> Asa Jay
> >>
> >> Asa Jay Laughton, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
> >> &  Shelley Marie
> >> Spokane, WA
> >> ******************************
> >> http://www.asajay.com   ***   http://www.teampanteraracing.com
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 3/28/2010 8:00 PM, MikeLDrew at aol.com wrote:
> >>> In a message dated 3/28/10 13 56 15, asajay at asajay.com writes:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Okay, I just came from inspecting the brake pads and front wheel
> >>>> bearings.  While there, I tried to see what I had for shocks.
> >>>>
> >>>> This is what I can barely make out:
> >>>>
> >>>> Telcar  (Large T tapering down to a small R)
> >>>> 7214
> >>>> S032005
> >>>>
> >>>> The body of the shock is Black, not blue as I had earlier surmised.
> >>>> This is on the Front only, not the rear.
> >>>>
> >>>> Can anyone tell me more about these shocks?
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>> Sure, they are stock L-model shocks, cheap, serviceable when new, not
> > bad,
> >>> not particularly great.   You can either evaluate them yourself, or
> take
> >>> them somewhere and have them checked by somebody who knows what a
> proper
> >> shock
> >>> should feel like.   I'd definitely do that before I spent dime one on
> >>> replacement bushings for them!
> >>>
> >>> Do you still have the stock spring spacers?   If so this would be the
> >>> perfect opportunity to remove them.
> >>>
> >>> Mike
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