[DeTomaso] 5000. car

[boyd casey]

When I got in touch with the seller I felt that he was a pretty honest guy
and that he was a straight shooter. Now I don't know if he was ignorant
about Pantera issues or just  avoided answering questions because omission
is not a true lie. The bottom line is that the sellers inability or
unwillingness  to show the car combined with my gut feeling that something
wasn't right told me there was more to this car or less then met the eye
(depending how you look at it) In spite of the fact that I have a spare ZF
transaxle; I still felt that there were to many unknowns, and the fact that
the seller wouldn't pull the car out of the shipping container after the
prospective buyer just drove 13 hours  means he has something to hide or
just doesn't give a damn. This fact makes me feel even more confident that I
made the correct decision.. I still believe that there are still "real
deals" out there to be had. You have to be fast and ready to act but there
is still no substitute for due diligence. There are more and new scams every
day and the scammers get more skilled at their methods of deception. So the
first sign of trouble is anything that is designed to make you forgo your
normal investigation. Things like "I have 4 people lined up right behind
you   who are ready to roll so if you are not ready to roll no problem just
stop wasting my time.  ,   You are making it to complicated "If you don't
want it these other guys do! I don't have time to deal with tire kickers!.
These are all techniques known as the " The Take away close" They operate on
your "Fear of lose" to get you to make a decision based on emotion instead
of intellect. When emotion takes over you pay more , you make mistakes or
you get ripped off. Don't fall for it. I was in the retail auto business for
over 25 years and the key to separating someone from their money and making
a deal with a high profit margin is to get them to make their decisions
based on emotional decisions  not  intellectual ones. Deal with your head
not with your heart.

Hugh Boyd Casey

On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 4:38 PM, Lynn Wall <cars at wt-inc.com> wrote:

> To add my testimony to what was said below.  I dreamed of buying a Pantera
> since I was about 16.  One day I logged on the eBay and saw one that I
> could
> "afford" and was close (given where I live that was very important).  There
> was 30 minutes left in the auction.  I begged my wife and did things I'm
> not
> proud of for 27 minutes.  Finally, with her consent (that is what the court
> will hear) I submitted my bid and "won" the auction.  I got a steal (the
> local experts confirmed that it was a 7 out of 10) I thought.  My kid could
> drive this to senior prom.
>
> Long story-short; if I had spent an extra $15,000 on a better car I would
> have saved $25,000.  Two kids have graduated since I bought that car,
> neither have sat in it and at the rate I'm going neither of the next two
> will take it to senior prom either.
>
> To the newbies out there, be careful and do the homework before buying.
> When you put your budget together, double it.  If you come in under, great
> if you hit your budget you will be happy.
>
> Lynn (pantera on a rotisserie for 5 years)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com]
> On
> Behalf Of Ken Green
> Sent: Friday, June 25, 2010 12:51 PM
> To: detomaso at realbig.com; deserttwist at juno.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] 5000. car
>
> Just so you don't feel too bad, I flew from LA to Chicago about 10 years
> ago
> to look at a "rust free" car.  It was the worst Pantera I ever saw.  For
> example, the seems where the outer rocker panels meet the bottom of the car
> were gone, there were open slits running along each side.  Other parts were
> simply rusted away.  The seller seemed like a nice guy, but it's hard to
> imagine that he didn't realize how bad it was.
>
> The problem is that if you buy a complete running car, there may be $10K in
> rust repair lurking under the paint, and a lot of us are not qualified to
> inspect a car for that, and we get to excited and miss the obvious.
> Personally, I think the best cars to buy are those with a complete "to the
> metal" restoration, or just a really cheap car that you plan to spend $20K
> plus on metal repair and paint.  I think the worst cars to buy are the "OK"
> cars for $30K, that you still end up spending $20K + on metal and paint to
> get what you want.
>
> Ken
>
> o
>
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