[DeTomaso] 5000. car and how lucky we are

Larry - Ohio Time Corp larry at ohiotimecorp.com
Fri Jun 25 16:30:49 EDT 2010


Amen Peter!

We are also lucky that Madd Dowgg is on the other side of the world (dark
side right now...) as he would want to do one of his group hugs after
reading that.

Larry (don't like gladiator movies) - Cleveland


-----Original Message-----
From: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com] On
Behalf Of Peter Kovacs
Sent: Friday, June 25, 2010 4:13 PM
To: Ken Green; detomaso at realbig.com; deserttwist at juno.com
Subject: [DeTomaso] 5000. car and how lucky we are

Just a warm fuzzy thought.... How lucky are we to have the group that we do
so that people from Oregon, New York, Fresno, Modesto, San Jose, San
Bernadino, (these are just the ones I have spoken with) can share
information rather than each have to travel to find out on their own what a
car is or isn't ??!! And often Mike Drew will even fly to a place and write
up his findings to act as the eyes for a  potential buyer. Or Chucks quick
ability to identify an Internet seller marketing a car he doesn't possess or
own. Or Mark T to drive to Lodi to inspect a car for a buyer in Norway to be
able to rely on something other than pictures posted on the Internet.

Shopping for a car with this group as a resource is greatly different than
shopping without. 

Many thanks to the team.
 
Peter Kovacs
209 345-6708 
209 436-2000 fx




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From: Ken Green <kenn_green at yahoo.com>
To: detomaso at realbig.com; "deserttwist at juno.com" <deserttwist at juno.com>
Sent: Fri, June 25, 2010 12:50:39 PM
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] 5000. car

Just so you don't feel too bad, I flew from LA to Chicago about 10 years ago
to look at a "rust free" car.  It was the worst Pantera I ever saw.  For
example, the seems where the outer rocker panels meet the bottom of the car
were gone, there were open slits running along each side.  Other parts were
simply rusted away.  The seller seemed like a nice guy, but it's hard to
imagine that he didn't realize how bad it was.
 
The problem is that if you buy a complete running car, there may be $10K in
rust repair lurking under the paint, and a lot of us are not qualified to
inspect a car for that, and we get to excited and miss the obvious. 
Personally, I think the best cars to buy are those with a complete "to the
metal" restoration, or just a really cheap car that you plan to spend $20K
plus on metal repair and paint.  I think the worst cars to buy are the "OK"
cars for $30K, that you still end up spending $20K + on metal and paint to
get what you want.
 
Ken

--- On Fri, 6/25/10, deserttwist at juno.com <deserttwist at juno.com> wrote:


From: deserttwist at juno.com <deserttwist at juno.com>
Subject: [DeTomaso] 5000. car
To: detomaso at realbig.com
Date: Friday, June 25, 2010, 9:57 AM


Hi Guys, Susan in Oregon here. Well I was the second person in line to buy
the car.  After Boyd dropped out the owner called me back and we hooked up
the car van to our Ford F-350 and headed to Calif. on Wed. morning. We got
there 13 hrs later and the next morning Thurs., made arrangements to view
the car. We got there at 9:00am and the car was in something like a sea
train container.  It was a tight fit and hard to see the rear or under the
rear. We asked him to push it out of the container and he had said it was to
heavy and wouldn't let us push it out. My husband got under the car as best
he could. The front cross member is pulled into a V ,must have towed it from
there. The interior is gutted, most of the dash is gone, ther are two seats
from something else just sitting loose in the car.  The seering wheel is
broken in half. The remaining dash has been altered to but in after market
guages. The flare kit is fiberglass, tore and ripped in spots. 
The fit is very poor and would have to be refitted.  It seems he cut out too
much of the fenders and fiber glassed to match. All is cracking apart. There
are no air conditioning hoses or parts, the radiator and fans need to be
junked.  All extra parts in boxes he has are worthless. Someone had fiber
glassed over the back deck lid. Need I say more! We left and headed back to
Oregon and stopped at every fruit stand and filled the car van with
tomatoes, strawberries and apricots. $500.00 in diesel  and 60.00 for fruit
and one hotel bill later we feel very lucky to get the car we have. Even
with my husband doing all the work, it would just never pencil out. Too easy
to buy someones for 20,000 or so and change things to the way one wants. If
anyone has more questions feel free to ask and I will get my husband on this
computer to tell them what he saw. I just saw dollar signs.Too many dollar
signs!  Sue
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