[DeTomaso] Roland Jackel-from the PI board

David & Marilyn Bell davidabell at worldnet.att.net
Sun Jun 20 20:51:42 EDT 2010


This is a private matter between the various individuals which should not be
aired in public on the Detomaso list.  I have asked everyone directly
involved to move this discussion off line.

Thanks,

Dave Bell - Detomaso List Administrator

-----Original Message-----
From: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com
[mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com]On Behalf Of pantdino at aol.com
Sent: Sunday, June 20, 2010 7:31 PM
To: detomaso at gmx.com; detomaso at realbig.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Roland Jackel-from the PI board



Roland,
A sucker is someone who can easily be fooled or cheated. I don't think
that's what you meant. :-)

I see this topic was closed on the PI Forum before Roland had had a chance
to respond to the posts.  (He is 9 hrs ahead of us in Germany). Not fair in
my estimation.

I read over all the posts and emails on the PI forum and really couldn't
make clear sense out of it.

Jim, can you sumnarize what has occurred?

For example, it seems to me:

Jim sold Roland a ZF for $4000,
The ZF was not Jim's own property-- he was acting as agent for a customer
Roland paid Jim (or the customer?) in full before the box was shipped.
The box was damaged in shipment.
UPS paid Jim $4000 to compensate for the damaged box.
Jim sent the money to Roland, refunding him in full.

Roland still has the box and feels he has the right to keep it AND the
refunded money

Are these statements correct?

If so, I believe that if Roland thinks about it some more he will realize he
has the right to keep the box or the $4000, but not both.  The whole
business of whose UPS number was used and therefore who insured the item
adds some confusion, but the overall picture is clear.


Jim Oddie









-----Original Message-----
From: Roland Jaeckel <detomaso at gmx.com>
To: detomaso at realbig.com
Sent: Sun, Jun 20, 2010 7:32 am
Subject: [DeTomaso] Roland Jackel-from the PI board


Jim is a succer !

I bought a gearbox for 4000.00 Dollar from him. I transferd the money as
equested. I asked him to ship the box on behalf of my UPS customers no.
hitch he did.
UPS damaged the box. My mistkake was, that i haven't arranged a pick up from
ere. So UPS wanted to trade with the sender anbout the claim. UPS and i
sked Jim several times to sign the claim over to me, that UPS could pay the
amage right to me. Jim always avoided that. He claimed several times, that
PS doesn't want to pay, until i called UPS in the States and asked what's
oing on. They where very helpful and gave me the check no. of a 4000.-
ollar check, that they had already send to Jim for the damage. First Jim
ried to give me 1200.- for the damage and at least 2500.-.
I saw no reason, why he can keep a part or all of the insurance, because the
amaged box was mine already.
Yes, i said i would return the box, because i saw no other chance to get the
oney of the insurance.
Jim still has the 4000.- Dollar payment, that i have send to him.

Thank you,

Roland Jaeckel


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