[DeTomaso] Taller 5th gear for cruise

jgkrenton at comcast.net jgkrenton at comcast.net
Sat Jun 19 11:08:50 EDT 2010



Dawg: 



We're not going to feel too sorry for your sorry self!  However we do understand that the self-realization that you too are a slacker, must be a life changing moment..  But I'm sure you've found some way, actually probably dozens of ways, to comfort your bruised ego..  

  

Be careful - stay safe! 



Jeff/2467 




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From: "Mad Dog Antenucci" <teampantera at yahoo.com> 
To: jgkrenton at comcast.net, "Asa Jay Laughton" <asajay at asajay.com> 
Cc: detomaso at realbig.com 
Sent: Friday, June 18, 2010 9:20:54 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific 
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Taller 5th gear for cruise 




Guilty as charged....this List is like a crack addiction.....i can't give it up....i wait to catch one of you slackers (Jack!) providing the wrong advise and even half way around the world I realized I am a slacker too ;-]> 
I told AJ "no don't send more then a dozen shirts"........so in less then 2 minutes girls and expats had take every one of them.....in so doing I was all most crushed by the desire by others to get something (anything) FREE........and you thought it was bad in the states....please you can't understand how difficult it is here. 
Can't wait to fly back to the sandbox 


  
Baddered and Bruised Dawg 
Team America 
The 1st & still the only vintage TPR t-shirt socialist in Thailand 
www.teampanteraracing.com 





From: "jgkrenton at comcast.net" <jgkrenton at comcast.net> 
To: Asa Jay Laughton <asajay at asajay.com> 
Cc: detomaso at realbig.com 
Sent: Fri, June 18, 2010 7:37:22 PM 
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Taller 5th gear for cruise 





Asa: 



You hit it on the head!  Why does Dawg have time to send all these e-mails when he has all those T-Shirts to distribute???  What is up with that??   There are girls in need!!!!!! 



(And Ft Stockton Tx is like Bangkok just like Victorville CA is like Tahiti...) 



I think Dawg is slacking on us!  Without his Pantera, he's lost his focus... ;-)  He's drifting aimlessly through the moreass... 



Jeff 2467 
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Asa Jay Laughton" < asajay at asajay.com > 
To: detomaso at realbig.com 
Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 8:53:42 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific 
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Taller 5th gear for cruise 

You get those Wet T-Shirt photos yet?  C'mon Dog where -are- your 
priorities?  Talking about Pantera stuff, good grief, one would think 
you were in a hotel room lounging on a couch eating Cheetos. 

Asa Jay 
;) 

Asa Jay Laughton, MSgt, USAFR, Retired 
&  Shelley Marie 
Spokane, WA 
****************************** 
http://www.racingagainstautism.com 
http://www.teampanteraracing.com 


On 6/17/2010 20:18, Mad Dog Antenucci wrote: 
> Good argument IF you have a wimpy engine ;-)>  or don't or won't miss the 'hole-shot' that the 4.22 gear provides. 
>   
> Mad Dawg Antenucci 
> Team Pantera Racing 
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> ________________________________ 
> From: P. Rimov< rimov at charter.net > 
> To: Will Demelo< wdemelo at cogeco.ca >; Daniel C Jones< daniel.c.jones2 at gmail.com >; Pantera REALBIG forum< detomaso at realbig.com > 
> Sent: Thu, June 17, 2010 3:37:20 PM 
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Taller 5th gear for cruise 
> 
> I would have to second Will's recommendation of sticking with the stock 
> fifth and going with the 3.77:1. Granted I had a pretty wimpy C-engine, some 
> guy I know  but it was just amazing the difference going from the 4.22:1 to 
> the 3:77:1. I could run out first gear way farther, there was absolutely no 
> gear noise and I found I could cruise in 4th or 5th at highway speeds. What 
> ever speed I drove I always felt I had the right gear available. 
> 
> Cheers 
> 
> Paul 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Will Demelo"< wdemelo at cogeco.ca > 
> To: "Daniel C Jones"< daniel.c.jones2 at gmail.com >; "Pantera REALBIG forum" 
> < detomaso at realbig.com > 
> Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 2:10 PM 
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Taller 5th gear for cruise 
> 
> 
>     
>> I have the 3.77 and .655 fifth gear. I find it a little sluggish at 75mph 
>> with a 393 stroker. I don't recommend going any taller on the fifth. The 
>> 3.77 r&p is amazing. 
>> Will 
>> 
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Daniel C Jones"< daniel.c.jones2 at gmail.com > 
>> To: "Pantera REALBIG forum"< detomaso at realbig.com > 
>> Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 3:41 PM 
>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Taller 5th gear for cruise 
>> 
>> 
>>       
>>> I've decide to have a taller 5th gear installed in the red Pantera's 
>>> transaxle.  The standard 5th gear is 0.705.  The optional 5th gear 
>>> ratios are: 
>>> 
>>>    0.655 
>>>    0.642 
>>>    0.620 
>>> 
>>> The tallest 5th gear with the standard ring and pinion is very similar 
>>> to the standard 5th gear with the 3.77:1 ring and pinion: 
>>> 
>>> 0.620 * 4.22 = 2.61640 
>>> 0.705 * 3.77 = 2.65785 
>>> 
>>> I ran some numbers assuming: 
>>> 
>>> 335/35/17 tires 
>>> 4.22:1 final drive ratio 
>>> current gear ratios 
>>>    1st 2.23 
>>>    2nd 1.47 
>>>    3rd 1.04 
>>>    4th .846 
>>>    5th .705, 0.655, 0.642, 0.620 
>>> 
>>> Speed  Ratio  RPM 
>>> 80 MPH  .705  3050 
>>> 80 MPH  .655  2834 
>>> 80 MPH  .642  2777 
>>> 80 MPH  .620  2682 
>>> 70 MPH  .620  2347 
>>> 60 MPH  .620  2011 
>>> 60 MPH  .642  2089 
>>> 60 MPH  .655  2125 
>>> 60 MPH  .846  2745 
>>> 
>>> Typical highway cruise speed is 75 to 80 MPH.  The engine is a 407 
>>> Fontana with C302B heads and IR EFI.  Looks like I should be able 
>>> pull the 0.620 gear at 80 MPH.  It might be sluggish at 60 MPH but 
>>> there's not much difference in RPM between the three gears at that 
>>> speed so I'm leaning towards the 0.620 gear.  I can always drop 
>>> back to 4th at 60 MPH which would be 2745 RPM.  Any thoughts? 
>>> 
>>> Dan Jones 
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