[DeTomaso] Wet Tshirts in Bangkok? Re: Taller 5th gear for cruise

Mad Dog Antenucci teampantera at yahoo.com
Fri Jun 18 06:27:10 EDT 2010


What wet t-shirts? ;-]>

Well here's what happened...and yous gots to use your imagination.

We had not had rain for all most a week...and then it rained....so everyone had wet t-shirts. 

Rest of the story is pretty boring....yea Bangkok is a little like Fort Stockton Texas or Arnold Nebraska...just a little more rain 
here. ;-]>

Mad Dawg Antenucci , Captain
Team America 
The 1st & still the only wet t-shirt vendor in Bangkok 
www.teampanteraracing.com




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From: Asa Jay Laughton <asajay at asajay.com>
To: detomaso at realbig.com
Sent: Thu, June 17, 2010 8:53:42 PM
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Taller 5th gear for cruise

You get those Wet T-Shirt photos yet?  C'mon Dog where -are- your 
priorities?  Talking about Pantera stuff, good grief, one would think 
you were in a hotel room lounging on a couch eating Cheetos.

Asa Jay
;)

Asa Jay Laughton, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
&  Shelley Marie
Spokane, WA
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On 6/17/2010 20:18, Mad Dog Antenucci wrote:
> Good argument IF you have a wimpy engine ;-)>  or don't or won't miss the 'hole-shot' that the 4.22 gear provides. 
>  
> Mad Dawg Antenucci
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> From: P. Rimov<rimov at charter.net>
> To: Will Demelo<wdemelo at cogeco.ca>; Daniel C Jones<daniel.c.jones2 at gmail.com>; Pantera REALBIG forum<detomaso at realbig.com>
> Sent: Thu, June 17, 2010 3:37:20 PM
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Taller 5th gear for cruise
>
> I would have to second Will's recommendation of sticking with the stock
> fifth and going with the 3.77:1. Granted I had a pretty wimpy C-engine, some
> guy I know  but it was just amazing the difference going from the 4.22:1 to
> the 3:77:1. I could run out first gear way farther, there was absolutely no
> gear noise and I found I could cruise in 4th or 5th at highway speeds. What
> ever speed I drove I always felt I had the right gear available.
>
> Cheers
>
> Paul
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Will Demelo"<wdemelo at cogeco.ca>
> To: "Daniel C Jones"<daniel.c.jones2 at gmail.com>; "Pantera REALBIG forum"
> <detomaso at realbig.com>
> Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 2:10 PM
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Taller 5th gear for cruise
>
>
>    
>> I have the 3.77 and .655 fifth gear. I find it a little sluggish at 75mph
>> with a 393 stroker. I don't recommend going any taller on the fifth. The
>> 3.77 r&p is amazing.
>> Will
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Daniel C Jones"<daniel.c.jones2 at gmail.com>
>> To: "Pantera REALBIG forum"<detomaso at realbig.com>
>> Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 3:41 PM
>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Taller 5th gear for cruise
>>
>>
>>      
>>> I've decide to have a taller 5th gear installed in the red Pantera's
>>> transaxle.  The standard 5th gear is 0.705.  The optional 5th gear
>>> ratios are:
>>>
>>>    0.655
>>>    0.642
>>>    0.620
>>>
>>> The tallest 5th gear with the standard ring and pinion is very similar
>>> to the standard 5th gear with the 3.77:1 ring and pinion:
>>>
>>> 0.620 * 4.22 = 2.61640
>>> 0.705 * 3.77 = 2.65785
>>>
>>> I ran some numbers assuming:
>>>
>>> 335/35/17 tires
>>> 4.22:1 final drive ratio
>>> current gear ratios
>>>    1st 2.23
>>>    2nd 1.47
>>>    3rd 1.04
>>>    4th .846
>>>    5th .705, 0.655, 0.642, 0.620
>>>
>>> Speed  Ratio  RPM
>>> 80 MPH  .705  3050
>>> 80 MPH  .655  2834
>>> 80 MPH  .642  2777
>>> 80 MPH  .620  2682
>>> 70 MPH  .620  2347
>>> 60 MPH  .620  2011
>>> 60 MPH  .642  2089
>>> 60 MPH  .655  2125
>>> 60 MPH  .846  2745
>>>
>>> Typical highway cruise speed is 75 to 80 MPH.  The engine is a 407
>>> Fontana with C302B heads and IR EFI.  Looks like I should be able
>>> pull the 0.620 gear at 80 MPH.  It might be sluggish at 60 MPH but
>>> there's not much difference in RPM between the three gears at that
>>> speed so I'm leaning towards the 0.620 gear.  I can always drop
>>> back to 4th at 60 MPH which would be 2745 RPM.  Any thoughts?
>>>
>>> Dan Jones
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