[DeTomaso] 600 HP Hemi - Re: Entertaining TV on Sat (no DeTomaso0

Thu Jul 15 11:01:42 EDT 2010

Although it's not a Hemi Cuda, there was talk recently from Chrysler about putting the 600hp Viper V-10 into a Challenger. Since the Viper is nearing end of production they apparently have engines available.

Dan Pedersen

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>From: Mad Dog Antenucci <teampantera at yahoo.com>
>Sent: Jul 15, 2010 7:20 AM
>To: wkooiman at earthlink.net, detomaso at realbig.com
>Subject: [DeTomaso] 600 HP Hemi - Re: Entertaining TV on Sat (no DeTomaso0
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>I shared this "I have a dream" with some of you which is to buy a Ford GT or 
>a GT40 clone when I come back to the states.... and then the guy I work for here 
>in the sandbox let me borrow his teaser Audi RS6 hoping I would stay here longer 
>on premise I could borrow his car. 
>
>
>While the RS6 is perfect in every way it doesn't have all the lovable (did I 
>write taht?) flaws our belived Pantera's have.....throw  in 500Hp the only thing 
>that comes close to my heart is 500 HP with 1,000 pounds shaved off.  Anyway 
>last week I had to give the boss back the RS6 and in turn handing me the keys to 
>my Toyota Camry. Gaaaaw
>
> Gotta do something about the need for speed. Toyota ain't gonna do it. Camaro's 
>are big here but waiting to see if Mopar delivers on the 600 Hp Hemi 
>Cuda....anyone hear if that is happening or not?
>Headed back to my cell block. I mean is Chrysler still in business? ;-]>
>
>Dawg
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>From: "wkooiman at earthlink.net" <wkooiman at earthlink.net>
>To: detomaso at realbig.com
>Sent: Wed, July 14, 2010 11:43:22 PM
>Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Entertaining TV on Sat (no DeTomaso0
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>That's not what I think of when someone says they de-tuned a car.
>
>Yes, I know you tune a suspension, just like you tune an engine.  So, naturally 
>you can de-tune the suspension just like you can de-tune the engine.  But when 
>they say they had to de-tune the Charger because otherwise it would "flat run 
>away" from the Mustang, most people think they're talking about de-tuning the 
>engine.  If they had said, "out corner", I would think suspension.
>
>Besides, we're talking about a movie.  They weren't trying to make the cars as 
>equal as possible.  They were trying to make the movie as exciting as possible.  
>Cars sliding all over the place is more exciting.
>
>All I'm saying is a bone stock 440 Charger is not fast.  It sounds and looks 
>really cool, but that's about it.  Maybe my sister's boyfriend had a turd, but I 
>don't think so.  We didn't do a lot of dyno tuning in those days, but we knew 
>enough about engines to get the basics right.
>
>I don't have any first hand 390 Mustang experiences.  I've known some guys that 
>had them, but without a direct frame of reference, I can only guess that a 390 
>Mustang, in a straight line, should be about as fast as a 440 Charger.  That's 
>not what I heard from the film makers.  They made it sound like a 440 Charger is 
>a rocket and a 390 Mustang is a turd.
>
>By the way, my sister's boyfriend traded the Charger for a 69 AMX.  That car was 
>amazing - sweet looking and very fast.  Also very stock.  It made quite an 
>impression on me, a 16 year old at the time.  I still want one today.
>
>He traded the AMX on a 78 Mustang Mach 1 - the one that looks like a Pinto.  We 
>wanted to kick his butt.
>
>Later, he joined the Army and bought another 69 Charger.  I guess that one was 
>his favorite.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>>From: JDeRyke at aol.com
>>Sent: Jul 14, 2010 11:00 PM
>>To: wkooiman at earthlink.net, detomaso at realbig.com
>>Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Entertaining TV on Sat (no DeTomaso0
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>>In a message dated 7/14/10 4:26:44 PM, wkooiman at earthlink.net writes:
>>
>>> don't believe that a stock 440 Charger had to be detuned to allow a stock 
>>> 390 Mustang to keep up.
>>> 
>>
>>Sorry, Will. The film makers said they had to progressively reduce the 
>>Charger's tire size and width until the thing was quite squirrely on those city 
>
>>streets, or it flat ran away from the Mustang. Take a look at the pitiful 
>>tire size during the sequence where the Charger's hubcaps fly off in a corner. 
>>They look like trailer tires. To me, thats de-tuning. Cheers- J Deryke
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