[DeTomaso] 600 HP Hemi - Re: Entertaining TV on Sat (no DeTomaso0

[Mad Dog Antenucci]

I shared this "I have a dream" with some of you which is to buy a Ford GT or 
a GT40 clone when I come back to the states.... and then the guy I work for here 
in the sandbox let me borrow his teaser Audi RS6 hoping I would stay here longer 
on premise I could borrow his car. 


While the RS6 is perfect in every way it doesn't have all the lovable (did I 
write taht?) flaws our belived Pantera's have.....throw  in 500Hp the only thing 
that comes close to my heart is 500 HP with 1,000 pounds shaved off.  Anyway 
last week I had to give the boss back the RS6 and in turn handing me the keys to 
my Toyota Camry. Gaaaaw

 Gotta do something about the need for speed. Toyota ain't gonna do it. Camaro's 
are big here but waiting to see if Mopar delivers on the 600 Hp Hemi 
Cuda....anyone hear if that is happening or not?
Headed back to my cell block. I mean is Chrysler still in business? ;-]>

Dawg
    
 
Mad Dawg Antenucci 
Team Pantera Racing 
The 1st & still the only vintage race team in open road racing 
www.teampanteraracing.com




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From: "wkooiman at earthlink.net" <wkooiman at earthlink.net>
To: detomaso at realbig.com
Sent: Wed, July 14, 2010 11:43:22 PM
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Entertaining TV on Sat (no DeTomaso0

That's not what I think of when someone says they de-tuned a car.

Yes, I know you tune a suspension, just like you tune an engine.  So, naturally 
you can de-tune the suspension just like you can de-tune the engine.  But when 
they say they had to de-tune the Charger because otherwise it would "flat run 
away" from the Mustang, most people think they're talking about de-tuning the 
engine.  If they had said, "out corner", I would think suspension.

Besides, we're talking about a movie.  They weren't trying to make the cars as 
equal as possible.  They were trying to make the movie as exciting as possible.  
Cars sliding all over the place is more exciting.

All I'm saying is a bone stock 440 Charger is not fast.  It sounds and looks 
really cool, but that's about it.  Maybe my sister's boyfriend had a turd, but I 
don't think so.  We didn't do a lot of dyno tuning in those days, but we knew 
enough about engines to get the basics right.

I don't have any first hand 390 Mustang experiences.  I've known some guys that 
had them, but without a direct frame of reference, I can only guess that a 390 
Mustang, in a straight line, should be about as fast as a 440 Charger.  That's 
not what I heard from the film makers.  They made it sound like a 440 Charger is 
a rocket and a 390 Mustang is a turd.

By the way, my sister's boyfriend traded the Charger for a 69 AMX.  That car was 
amazing - sweet looking and very fast.  Also very stock.  It made quite an 
impression on me, a 16 year old at the time.  I still want one today.

He traded the AMX on a 78 Mustang Mach 1 - the one that looks like a Pinto.  We 
wanted to kick his butt.

Later, he joined the Army and bought another 69 Charger.  I guess that one was 
his favorite.

-----Original Message-----
>From: JDeRyke at aol.com
>Sent: Jul 14, 2010 11:00 PM
>To: wkooiman at earthlink.net, detomaso at realbig.com
>Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Entertaining TV on Sat (no DeTomaso0
>
>In a message dated 7/14/10 4:26:44 PM, wkooiman at earthlink.net writes:
>
>> don't believe that a stock 440 Charger had to be detuned to allow a stock 
>> 390 Mustang to keep up.
>> 
>
>Sorry, Will. The film makers said they had to progressively reduce the 
>Charger's tire size and width until the thing was quite squirrely on those city 

>streets, or it flat ran away from the Mustang. Take a look at the pitiful 
>tire size during the sequence where the Charger's hubcaps fly off in a corner. 
>They look like trailer tires. To me, thats de-tuning. Cheers- J Deryke
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