[DeTomaso] Entertaining TV on Sat (no DeTomaso0

wkooiman at earthlink.net wkooiman at earthlink.net
Thu Jul 15 03:23:33 EDT 2010


I don't think you were comparing the right numbers.

A 68 Mustang F/B in the Stock class is rated at 10.26.
A 68 440 Charger in the Stock class is rated at 10.40.

A 68 Mustang F/B in the Super Stock class is rated at 9.94.
A 68 440 Charger in the Super Stock class is rated at 10.23.

Neither AFR nor Canfield makes heads for an FE.  Those comments are for the 302.

NHRA allows Edelbrock heads as stock replacements for the 390.  The Edelbrock heads are an improvement.  They aren't a huge improvement, but they aren't race heads like Canfields or AFR.

Of course, these numbers simply reflect what people are doing with the cars today, with years of tuning, testing, and pushing every rule to the limit.  What happened on the street in the 70's and 80's would have been different, and possibly a lot different.

However, the numbers sure don't "speak" that a stock 440 Charger would walk all over a 390 Mustang.  Outrun maybe.  I don't have an issue with saying a 440 Charger is faster than a 390 Mustang.  I have an issue with making it sound like it wouldn't even be close.

-----Original Message-----
>From: Dave Londry <davel at emspace.com>
>Sent: Jul 15, 2010 1:39 AM
>To: JDeRyke at aol.com
>Cc: wkooiman at earthlink.net, detomaso at realbig.com
>Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Entertaining TV on Sat (no DeTomaso0
>
>The NHRA rating on a 68 390 fastback is 10.26 (with AFR Canfield or 
>Edelbrock heads)
>The rating of a 68 440 charger is 10.23 (stock heads)
>http://www.nhra.com/competition/classification.aspx
>
>There are about 20 factors I bypassed but it's very close and it 
>surprised the hell out of me.
>A stock 68 - 383 roadrunner used to drive away from a stock 68 - 390 
>mustang,
> first-hand experience1968, new well-tuned cars.
>
>I doan get it.
>dave
>
>
>
>JDeRyke at aol.com wrote:
>> In a message dated 7/14/10 4:26:44 PM, wkooiman at earthlink.net writes:
>>
>>   
>>> don't believe that a stock 440 Charger had to be detuned to allow a stock 
>>> 390 Mustang to keep up.
>>>
>>>     
>>
>> Sorry, Will. The film makers said they had to progressively reduce the 
>> Charger's tire size and width until the thing was quite squirrely on those city 
>> streets, or it flat ran away from the Mustang. Take a look at the pitiful 
>> tire size during the sequence where the Charger's hubcaps fly off in a corner. 
>> They look like trailer tires. To me, thats de-tuning. Cheers- J Deryke
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