[DeTomaso] FW: Line to clutch slave.

richard at hitecheng.on.ca richard at hitecheng.on.ca
Mon Jul 12 16:28:32 EDT 2010


When I bought my braided hose from Wilkinson the fitting came with the hose. 
It was the wrong fitting so I bought one at the local hardware store for 
under $1.00. When I told Steve he sent me out one for free with no shipping 
charges.
Richard Turpin

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From: "boyd casey" <boyd411 at gmail.com>
Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 4:21 PM
To: "STEVEN BLUM" <steveblum2 at msn.com>
Cc: <detomaso at realbig.com>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] FW: Line to clutch slave.

> I was pissed off at what I perceived as being gaffed. What made it worse 
> was
> the fact that the vendor in my case knew what I was doing and must have
> known that I needed this part to complete the upgrade to a stainless 
> braided
> line  from the red plastic line. He neglected to tell me I would need
> another part (other then what I thought was the complete conversion ) To 
> ad
> insult to injury I had to pay an additional $14.00 for shipping in 
> addition
> to the outrageous overcharge for the part and the shipping charges I paid 
> to
> have the Braided line sent. This A&N fitting could have been thrown in the
> box and it wouldn't have changed the shipping charges  one cent! Now 
> anytime
> I buy hardware (nuts , bolts or any part that is not a proprietary Pantera
> part) Ishop at conventionalhardware parts suppliers. The problem is that
> most vendors will not supply the information neccesary to obtain the parts 
> (
> like diameter ,length, thread count) Just like they won't discuss the size
> of the wheels they sell. When you ask what the offset is they just say
> "Don't worry about it,they will fit!" I really motivates me to go out of 
> my
> way to find alternative sources. We should really make an effort to create 
> a
> data base of the various sizes and specs of the non proprietary Pantera
> parts and alternative sources to  purchase them from. I expect the vendors
> to make a fair profit for stocking parts and their years of accumulated
> kowledge, but ten times the cost is out of line !
> Boyd
>
> On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 3:42 PM, STEVEN BLUM <steveblum2 at msn.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> My thought also, having paid the $38.78 plus $10 shipping for one a few
>> months ago. I agree to supporting them but not to the point we feel 
>> ripped
>> off.
>>
>> Steve
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > From: MZadony at fleetresponse.com
>> > To: detomaso at realbig.com
>> > Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2010 15:34:05 -0400
>> > Subject: [DeTomaso] FW: Line to clutch slave.
>>  >
>> > "Hey whats up with this ???" $4.54 vs $38.78 ? I know that we have to
>> support our Pantera Vendors, but this piece is 8 1/2 times more expensive 
>> at
>> a vendor. Myron--the other guy in Cleveland #6928 74 L.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > ________________________________________
>> > From: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com [detomaso-bounces at realbig.com] On
>> Behalf Of boyd casey [boyd411 at gmail.com]
>> > Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 3:11 PM
>> > To: Ken Green
>> > Cc: detomaso at realbig.com
>> > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Line to clutch slave.
>> >
>> > Check out this sight in the USA. Price is right too!
>> > http://www.aedmotorsport.com/Fragola/SteelBrakeAdapters.htm
>> >
>> > Boyd
>> >
>> > On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 2:51 PM, Ken Green <kenn_green at yahoo.com> 
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > > Dave,
>> > >
>> > > They are in china, not sure I like that.
>> > >
>> > > Ken
>> > >
>> > > --- On Mon, 7/12/10, Dave Londry <davel at emspace.com> wrote:
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > From: Dave Londry <davel at emspace.com>
>> > > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Line to clutch slave.
>> > > To: "Ken Green" <kenn_green at yahoo.com>
>> > > Cc: detomaso at realbig.com
>> > > Date: Monday, July 12, 2010, 10:37 AM
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Looks like it might be this one from the kstbrakehose site Ken.
>> > > KFAA-05
>> > >
>> > > 7/16 " x 20NF
>> > >
>> > > M12 x 1.0
>> > >
>> > > It would go into the joint in the slave line beside the oilpan.
>> > > The end u p at the slave is fine.
>> > > dave
>> > >
>> > > Ken Green wrote:
>> > > > Dave,
>> > > >
>> > > > This looks like the adapter on my slave, from the Wilkinson
>> > > > on-line catalog:
>> > > >
>> > > > http://www.panterapartsusa.com/cgi-bin/detail.cgi?prod_id=05014A
>> > > >
>> > > > It looks like this is the stock part, is it missing on your car?
>> > > >
>> > > > Looks like a bunch of this stuff is here:
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > >
>> http://www.kstbrakehose.com/newEbiz1/EbizPortalFG/portal/html/ProgramShow.html?ProgramShow_ProgramID=c373e91fae1735bb8f6b901751ff29bc
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > Ken
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > --- On *Sun, 7/11/10, Dave Londry /<davel at emspace.com>/* wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > From: Dave Londry <davel at emspace.com>
>> > > > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Line to clutch slave.
>> > > > To: "Ken Green" <kenn_green at yahoo.com>
>> > > > Cc: "DeTomaso Forum" <detomaso at realbig.com>
>> > > > Date: Sunday, July 11, 2010, 9:00 PM
>> > > >
>> > > > Ken
>> > > > The line fits directly onto the slave. That makes me think that
>> > > > it's an M12 1.0 inverted flare female at each end.
>> > > > So your adapter must be a M12 1.0 x 7/16 - 20 nipple
>> > > > I'll try asking Tara if they have such a thing.
>> > > > dave
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > Ken Green wrote:
>> > > >> Dave,
>> > > >>
>> > > >> It's always possible that parts have been changed on a 40
>> > > >> year old car, BUT, this is what I found. If anyone with their
>> > > >> car apart can verify what I found and described below, I will put
>> > > >> together a PDF doc with all the details.
>> > > >>
>> > > >> My clutch slave and MC have an M12 1.0 male threads and seal
>> > > >> to a line (or equivalent fitting) with an inverted fare.
>> > > >>
>> > > >> The solid line looks like a double inverted flare at both
>> > > >> ends and at the MC end has a male M12 1.0 fitting to screw into
>> > > >> the MC body and at the slave end has a female *7/16 20 *fitting
>> > > >> to mate to the flexible line.
>> > > >>
>> > > >> I don't have a flexible hose handy, but a male/male adapter
>> > > >> is screwed into the M12 1.0 thread in the slave and has a 7/16 20
>> > > >> thread male end for the flexible hose to screw onto (I guess they
>> > > >> used an off the shelf flexible hose with 7/16 20 threads on each
>> > > >> end?)
>> > > >>
>> > > >> If you know what the slave end of your flexible hose is you
>> > > >> should be able to just order a fitting that mates it to the M12
>> > > >> 1.0 threads and a concave face to seal to the slave body. If the
>> > > >> adapter is on your slave, did you try removing it to see if the
>> > > >> flexible hose fits directly into the slave body?
>> > > >>
>> > > >> I think the best solution is to buy a braided stainless hose
>> > > >> with M12 1.0 male thread as the slave end and 7/16 20 threads at
>> > > >> the hard line end, and matching the double inverted flare (i.e. a
>> > > >> 45 degree convex face) on the hard line and having a 45 degree
>> > > >> concave face on the other end, to match the solid line and the
>> > > >> slave body.
>> > > >>
>> > > >> Ken
>> > > >>
>> > > >>
>> > > >> --- On *Sat, 7/10/10, Dave Londry /<davel at emspace.com>/* wrote:
>> > > >>
>> > > >>
>> > > >> From: Dave Londry <davel at emspace.com>
>> > > >> Subject: [DeTomaso] Line to clutch slave.
>> > > >> To: "DeTomaso Forum" <detomaso at realbig.com>
>> > > >> Date: Saturday, July 10, 2010, 9:59 PM
>> > > >>
>> > > >> I recently bought a stainless-steel replacement for the red,
>> > > >> plastic
>> > > >> clutch-slave line, from Hall.
>> > > >> It came with 2 female flare-fittings and one of these fit
>> > > >> fine at the slave.
>> > > >> When I got to the other end I found the car also had a female
>> > > >> fitting.
>> > > >>
>> > > >> The line is a nice piece and I'd like to get it installed,
>> > > >> but I'll need
>> > > >> a nipple to connect the 2 female flare fittings.
>> > > >> Can you all help me out with the thread spec for the nipple
>> > > >> and also
>> > > >> what kind of supplier would carry a part like that.
>> > > >>
>> > > >> thanks
>> > > >> dave
>> > > >>
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