[DeTomaso] Asa's installing the roll cage

Sun Jan 31 02:28:22 EST 2010

Outstanding AJ Great photos! ;-)
And you  probably got the last Dick Drenske cage. Sadly Dick is retiring his shop and the jig by the end of the year and made a decision a while back that he wouldn't build any roll bars and cages. 

Dick is a mechanical engineer by profession and also a master welder, fabricator and mechanic. The only thing he ever copied was his own work. His race Pantera (which is for sale) has more re-engineered chassis and suspension work then any I have seen on any other Pantera in 25 years.   

Mad Dawg Antenucci 
Team Pantera Racing 
The 1st & still the only vintage race team in open road racing 
www.teampanteraracing.com

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From: Asa Jay Laughton <asajay at asajay.com>
To: De Tomaso List <detomaso at realbig.com>
Sent: Sat, January 30, 2010 1:11:15 PM
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Asa's installing the roll cage

My intent is to have it sit -on- the carpet.  My carpet is not very 
thick, I believe it is still the original 1973 carpet.  It's all glued 
down too, so I'm not relishing the idea of pulling it up, which I'll 
have to do up front in order to cut an access hole.  Right now I'm 
cinching the assembly down to see how much I might gain at the shoulder 
bolt but it's not looking like a lot.  I did compare my install to the 
photos I took of Mad Dog's.  He's got a lot thicker carpet in his 
Pantera than I have in mine.

I don't know if Dick was copying anyone else's design, but I don't think 
he was.  The fact is, most of them are probably pretty close to the same 
or similar designs due to the interior constraints of the cabin.  I 
noted a few small differences between mine and Mad Dog's, but everything 
is hand made to his jig, and then the car is hand made... so go figure.  
I knew -up front- there would most likely be some fitment issues.  So no 
complaints.  ;)

I'll have to get back to it later today as we are attending a memorial 
service this afternoon.  One of Shelley's grandfathers died recently 
(expected) and today is the service.

See you all later,
Asa Jay

Asa Jay Laughton, MSgt, USAFR, Retired

& Shelley Marie
Spokane, WA

1971 Mach I Mustang  [ASA JAY]
1973 Pantera L 5533  [ASASCAT]

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http://www.asajay.com
http://www.teampanteraracing.com

Julian Kift wrote:
> My test fitting of a Byers cage looked similar in the rear brace area at first until I pulled back the carpet and let it sit direct on the rockers. I see from the photos you currently have it over the carpet, so it may drop down a little yet if you intend for it to bolt under the carpet.
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> Julian
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>> Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2010 11:18:48 -0800
>> From: asajay at asajay.com
>> To: detomaso at realbig.com
>> CC: ddrenske at murraycompany.com
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Asa's installing the roll cage
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>> The plate is fully welded at the perimeter contacting the tube. And it 
>> has full penetration. I'm personally not against an open ended slot, 
>> but I don't know if that would pass tech. I have a friend locally that 
>> might be able to help create a larger plate and get it welded on if I 
>> need to.
>>
>> Asa Jay
>>
>> Asa Jay Laughton, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
>>
>> & Shelley Marie
>> Spokane, WA
>>
>> 1971 Mach I Mustang [ASA JAY]
>> 1973 Pantera L 5533 [ASASCAT]
>>
>> ****************************** 
>> http://www.asajay.com
>> http://www.teampanteraracing.com
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>> John Taphorn wrote:
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>>> Looks good Asa. Very easy to replace that plate with a larger one if you 
>>> know an individual with welding equip. The current plate only looks tacked 
>>> in place. Either way, pretty easy to cut out.
>>>
>>> JT
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Asa Jay Laughton" <asajay at asajay.com>
>>> To: <detomaso at realbig.com>; "Dick Drenske" <ddrenske at murraycompany.com>
>>> Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 1:01 PM
>>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Asa's installing the roll cage
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>      
>>>> Hey all,
>>>>
>>>> I finally got to doing the test fit of Dick's roll cage today:
>>>> http://www.teampanteraracing.com/index.php?option=com_g2bridge&view=gallery&Itemid=57&g2_itemId=3272
>>>>
>>>> I just have to tweak things into final place, bolt it down solid, then
>>>> remove it all for powder coating.
>>>>
>>>> Asa Jay
>>>>
>>>> Asa Jay Laughton, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
>>>>
>>>> & Shelley Marie
>>>> Spokane, WA
>>>>
>>>> 1971 Mach I Mustang [ASA JAY]
>>>> 1973 Pantera L 5533 [ASASCAT]
>>>>
>>>> ******************************
>>>> http://www.asajay.com
>>>> http://www.teampanteraracing.com
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