[DeTomaso] Speed Camera Tickets Not Valid?

Erik Anderson eanderson at geotracinternational.com
Tue Jan 12 13:31:28 EST 2010


COOL!

I got a photo radar ticket this summer and haven't paid it yet.  I have
to renew my plates and license before the end of the month ... so I will
play dumb and see what happens.

Stay tuned ...

EA
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-----Original Message-----
From: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com]
On Behalf Of Brent Stewart
Sent: January-12-10 10:41 AM
To: Larry Finch; detomaso at realbig.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Speed Camera Tickets Not Valid?

Ok, i'm qualified to comment having received a photo ticket in AZ and am
personal friends with a CA cop.

For CA - throw it away, you are exactly right - with out the signature,
they are not valid.  But photo radar was challenged in court a few years
back and for the most part (at least in the bay area), photo from the
parked white van are no longer happening. Note, this does NOT count for
red light violations. 

As for AZ, i did receive one in a rental car I was driving over the
summer. I did pay it as I had heard that they are far more serious about
these in AZ than we are in CA.  There was no signature required when I
received it, so claiming that i never got it could have been plausible
but I didn't want to push it.

brent




________________________________
From: Larry Finch <fresnofinches at aol.com>
To: detomaso at realbig.com
Sent: Tue, January 12, 2010 8:23:17 AM
Subject: [DeTomaso] Speed Camera Tickets Not Valid?

I just read an article about the Arizona speed camera system.

Seems with those mailed notices, you have not legally been served with  
the violation - as they have no way to prove you received the notice.

Remember how the cop says "sign here" whenever you get ticketed? And  
they say it is not an admission of guilt, just an admission you have  
received the ticket?

Well, in Arizona, unless you are personally served within 90 days of  
the photo camera violation, the notice expires.

So MANY Arizonians just ignore the mailed notices and wait out the 90  
days. With all government budget strained, there is no money to have  
process servers driving all over towns hand delivering speeding  
notices, so that photo camera 'violation' just goes away as long as  
you ignore it.

Anyone know the legality of such tickets here in California, or other  
states?

Larry
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