[DeTomaso] Vadar Inboard Brakes for Pantera

[hemipanter at hemipanter.se]

1
> I remember now . As ken said if you blow a universal joint you lose the
> brake on that wheel.
2
> Vader claims that their 10.5 " rotor is the equivalent of having a 12.32"
> rotor.
3
> They say with a 60/40 weight  distribution it would be the
> equivalent of having a 15.75" rotor. They don't say how to get the 60/40
> weight distribution.
4
> Also won't removing 50 lbs of sprung weight require changes to the
> springs and shocks?.
5
> Good street brakes can stop a car quickly in a short distance but they
> can't do it repeatedly because they can't dissipate the heat.
6
> The cooling problems associated with the Vader setups location would give
> me serious concerns about their usefulness in  a racing application (which
> is supposedly what they are designed for.)

First I must say that the Vader products seem very well made to me.

1
This is a point, but I dont think it is of to big a concern.
2
This is a very strange claim to me. A 10,5" rotor is a 10,5 " rotor, thats
it! What the diameter does is altering the friction speed an lever arm of
the disc. One at the expence of the other.
3
60-40 F to R or R to F? Should we alter the CG of the car to suit the
brake discs???
4
Unsprung weight will alter the High speed valving of the shocks, But I
doubt that it will be noticed  for a street car.
5
Right, but street car brakes should be designed with other criterias in mind
than a racing set up. We could even use larger discs on a street car than
for a racing car. This is becous a racing car must keep the temperature
within the working window, while a street car use pads that is working fom
coold. What I am saying is that a race car must use the RIGHT size discs.
While at a street car a to small disc will be bad. Okay, larger discs has
more unsprung weight.
6
The inboard disc cooling situation may bring some duct routing problem
along with it.

Goran