[DeTomaso] Shipping from the USA to Europe to sell?

Thomas Tornblom Thomas.Tornblom at hax.se
Sat Jan 2 18:21:33 EST 2010 

Jørn C. Olsen skrev:
> That is correct Chuck!
> Sweden has a similar rule but I am not sure of the details.

Sweden removed the weight based import tax on cars many years ago, and 
now the only fees you pay are sales tax (25%) and customs dues (10%), 
plus registration and plates. If you import from another EU country 
there is no customs and if you paid sales tax in the country where you 
bought the car, there is no Swedish sales tax.

When I imported a used 2001 audi a6 from Germany in 2003 I only had to 
pay registration, ~US$ 300, plates and pre-paid scrap fee, which has 
since been removed.

Thomas

> We may have a good vintage rule but we have some hopeless high car taxes on
> normal car.
> If I bought and imported a new Camaro from US I would have to pay about
> 180.000 USD I taxes before I even get the license plates on the car.  You US
> guys are lucky in that matter.
> 
> J.C.
> 
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> Fra: detomasoregistry at gmail.com [mailto:detomasoregistry at gmail.com] 
> Sendt: 2. januar 2010 20:24
> Til: 'Jørn C. Olsen'
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> Emne: RE: [DeTomaso] Shipping from the USA to Europe to sell?
> 
> There has also been a large influx of cars to Sweden recently.  My
> understanding
> is that Sweden also has a "Vintage Rule".
> 
> As much as it may be sad to see cars leave the USA, with such long winters
> these guys (Swedes, Norwegians, etc) have 'down time' to restore their cars.
> 
> I have been truly amazed by the quality of these "ground up" restorations,
> an
> honorable and worthy undertaking.  So I say, "more power to them"!
> 
> Chuck
> 
> 
> 
> Several of the cars who has been sold in US the last couple of years has
> been exported to Norway.
> Norway is not a part of the European Union but we have a "vintage rule"
> (ower 30 years) who makes it possible to import old cars nearly taxfree.  We
> only have to pay 25% tax on the bill amount and shipping.
> The cars will then have some limitations in use but that is no issue.
> 
> J.C
> 
> 
> 
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> Fra: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com] På
> vegne av Julian Kift
> Sendt: 2. januar 2010 19:42
> Til: detomasoregistry at gmail.com; boyd411 at gmail.com
> Kopi: De Tomaso List
> Emne: Re: [DeTomaso] Shipping from the USA to Europe to sell?
> 
> 
> Very dififcult to establish what is market driven and what is currency as a
> lot depends on which Country and the cost of importation and legalization as
> that can vary substantially and in some cases double the cost of the car
> delivered road ready in said Country. Although the EEC (European Econiomic
> Community) may be viewed as conglomerate of states operating on a similar
> Euro currency (well all except the UK, which refuses) each has its own very
> different rules, regulations and tax structures.
>  
> A good number of the lots in the recent RM London auction are from overseas
> sellers and sold without importation to UK (i.e. cars are brought in on a
> temporrary import permit). If the car is to remain in the UK then VAT (15%)
> plus duties add to the cost of the auction selling price. What I'm saying is
> that maybe that auctyion price is a better indication of 'market', but again
> caution that a car is worth what someone is willing to pay on the day. I'm
> asssuming that RM's quoted sales prices are including buyer commission or
> that could be another 10% again.
> 
> 
> Julian
>  
>> From: detomasoregistry at gmail.com
>> To: boyd411 at gmail.com
>> Date: Sat, 2 Jan 2010 10:14:15 -0800
>> CC: detomaso at realbig.com
>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Shipping from the USA to Europe to sell?
>>
>> Note that I have changed your subject line...
>>
>> There have been quite a few cars sold in the USA over the last 2-3 years
> that later
>> popped up for sale in Europe. One example does not generate enough data to
> 
>> get a good statistic, but I recently sited one (extreme) example. 
>> Search the archives for the thread where I posted the links into the
> Registry
>> for the example. The subject was something like "Look where she is now",
> in the last 2
>> months or so.
>>
>> This was a (green L) car that was quite nice, and was advertised on my
> website
>> as well as other areas (so it received good broad exposure - for Larry in
> Cleveland). 
>> It did sell quicker than the average (2-3 months?) I believe. 
>>
>> It is possibly still for sale (so the Euro-asking price is not a sold
> price), at a 
>> price around double what it sold for here in California.
>>
>> There is also a converted GT5 (blue or black ?) that is for sale in the UK
> which is
>> a LHD car from the USA which may be still for sale also.
>>
>> If you are really interested, I can suggest some search ideas. Search for
> Euro ads,
>> then if the car looks like a USA market car, search the Registry for sales
> history.
>> Chuck
>> (The Registry Guy)
>>
>>
>> I would love to see the results of a sale of a US car that had been
> offered
>> for sale here (in the US) and the exported to Europe to see a fair
>> representation of the market difference for the same car in both markets
> and
>> try to determine if the difference (if there is one ) is currency driven
> or
>> just that the market is stronger there? I don't know if there really is a
>> difference but it certainly seems so. In any case it would be an
> interesting
>> exercise. ( and maybe a profitable one.)
>> Boyd
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 4:35 PM, <mikeldrew at aol.com> wrote:
>>
>>> In a message dated 1/1/10 13 26 32, tomdiiulio at gmail.com writes:
>>>
>>>
>>>> hey, i'm NOT a homosexual, i just like watching good greco roman
>>>> wrestling!
>>>> i've had 2 offers at 35k and have turned 'em down but it doesn't look
>>> like
>>>> the car will go for much more than that. regardless of what i/we think
>>> the
>>>> car is worth, the market sets the price.
>>>> maybe i should ship it overseas......
>>>>
>>> Or better yet, just KEEP IT and avoid a lifetime of regret!
>>>
>>> Mike
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