[DeTomaso] Pantera Roller with V6 from 87 GN

[Curt Hall]

Hey Guys
 
I believe there was something said at the beginning of this thread about moving the V6 and Trans forward and maybe use a short drive line to a solid rear Axel if everything fit?
 
Back in the early 60s a guy named Bill Thomas was developing a car (The Cheetah) with Chevy's help.To be a Cobra killer! Of coarse Chevy backed out, and then there was a Factory fire...So the rest is History? They did build a few cars and they where very fast but squirrelly? They are building a continuation Cheetah (kinda like the C.S. Cobra) but that's another story.
 
What I was getting at...the Cheetah even though it was not a Mid Engine car had the engine set back so far that it did not use a drive line...Engine-Trans-Ujoint-Rear Axel. If there was room, maybe that type of set up might work??? Again if there was room.
 
My .02 cents
Curt
Always liked the Cheetah, might trade for a nice one? 

--- On Mon, 12/27/10, clay willmott <claywillmott at hotmail.com> wrote:


From: clay willmott <claywillmott at hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera Roller with V6 from 87 GN
To: jderyke at aol.com, detomaso at realbig.com
Date: Monday, December 27, 2010, 3:31 PM


I don't prefer automatics for sport street driving but to launch at 20 pounds on boost and run 8 and 9 second quarter miles I do prefer an automatic.
My mild 87 GN wieghs 3650 and runs high nines with mild tune I think a hotter engine in a lighter Pantera would run high 8s easily.
Seems an auto would be easier to get it done except it won't fit easily.
I know how to launch at boost with a proper TC and electric brake not sure how easy that is with a clutch to get boost up like that??   If I do it I think I will put 5 speed in and see how it goes.  Will be a lot faster than my 351C and get great mpg when not wot.

> From: JDeRyke at aol.com
> Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2010 14:15:53 -0500
> To: detomaso at realbig.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera Roller with V6 from 87 GN
> 
> In a message dated 12/27/10 5:04:27 AM, bob at dodgecarroll.com writes:
> 
> > I think Peter may be on the right track by suggesting an early Olds 
> > Toronado tranny. Pretty
> > compact & has been used in many drag race cars over the years. Not sure 
> > what it would take
> > to adapt it to your V6 though? These early trannys didn't require you to 
> > mount your engine
> > sideways - it could mount like the original ZF.
> > 
> They were also quite wide with the tranny alongside the diff, which might 
> make fitting it in between the rather narrow Pantera frame rails a big 
> problem. Even with the 6-speed   Ford GT trans, its also too wide requiring the 
> rear suspension pickup points to be moved and custom a-arms fabricated- which 
> changes the excellent geometry we now have. And early Toronado transaxles 
> were all iron- the later ones were in aluminum cases. Not saying it won't fit, 
> but an automatic in a sportscar? Why bother? FWIW- J DeRyke
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