[DeTomaso] definition of insanity disproven...

[Will Kooiman]

I would start the car and then wiggle every wire you soldered - while it's
running.  Most likely something has a bad connection.  If you wiggle a bad
wire, the idle should stumble.

If you don't find it that way, I'd replace the coil with the one recommended
by MSD.  Coils are cheap.  Headaches are not.

-----Original Message-----
From: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com] On
Behalf Of Pantdino
Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 11:00 PM
To: chrisvkimball at msn.com; spkorb at gmail.com
Cc: detomaso at realbig.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] definition of insanity disproven...


Note that all those non-cylindrical coils have the male, HEI type leads as
opposed to the female sockets used on the cylindrical coils.
I don't know if one simply uses a different lead from the coil to the dizzy
or there is more involved to switch between the two..

Every manufacturer claims their coil is the best.

Unless you can find a coil with specs very close to what the MSD coils have,
you might want to just replace what you have and see if your problem goes
away.

Jim








-----Original Message-----
From: Christopher Kimball <chrisvkimball at msn.com>
To: spkorb at gmail.com
Cc: Pantera List Serve <detomaso at realbig.com>
Sent: Sun, Dec 19, 2010 5:56 pm
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] definition of insanity disproven...



 don't have any ballast resistor (at least such as the old one I removed
years 
go), just the ready-to-run distributor and the MSD box, with a tach adapter.
Here is something I found--opinions?

Crane Cams LX91 Lightweight E-Core Coil

- High-output E-core ignition coils.
- Up to 70% higher energy at the spark plug than stock for maximum
performance, 
ace or street.
- E-core design with closed magnetic path. Reduced leakage inductance 
uts losses and improves energy transfer to the spark plug.
- Solid epoxy encapsulated. Resists severe shock and harsh vibration.
- Insulated primary connector for safety. No exposed high voltage on 
rimary terminals for enhanced safety. An important consideration when 
sed with high output CD systems.
- SAE-spec high voltage tower protects against arcing. Improved coil 
ire retention and longer creep path to protect against high voltage 
rcing.
- Heavy gauge wire used for all windings. Results in much lower 
esistance and better heat dissipation for greater high RPM endurance.
- Windings optimized with computer aided design. Our exclusive CAD 
Computer-Aided-Design) windings produce maximum spark gap current and 
ighest available voltage.
- Lightweight, low profile black anodized housing.
- Recommended for use with stock OEM ignition systems.

LX91 High Output Universal E-Core Ignition Coil Highest possible spark 
nergy and spark gap current, up to 100% greater than comparable OE 
oils and 70% greater than MSD Blaster coil. Recommended coil for street
use with Crane HI-6, Mallory Hyfire, MSD 6 CD systems. Also works great
with Crane DMSI, HI-6S, XR3000 inductive discharge ignitions. Not for 
se in race or extended high RPM use with high output ignition. Not for 
se with points.

hanks,
Chris

> Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2010 20:47:58 -0500
 Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] definition of insanity disproven...
 From: spkorb at gmail.com
 To: chrisvkimball at msn.com
 CC: detomaso at realbig.com
 
 I had this sort of problem with my Pantera and it turned out to be the
 ballast resistor, but not in the way you would think.  Over time and
 probably 40 years of diagnostic sessions, the connectors had become
 loose and were no longer making full contact with the blades of the
 ballast resistor.  A little time with some pliers and it was good as
 n.. well, good as old and working :)
 
 sean
 
 On Sat, Dec 18, 2010 at 10:33 PM, Christopher Kimball
 <chrisvkimball at msn.com> wrote:
 >
 > After all my frustration with trying to start the car with no spark
evident, 
fter dinner this evening I figured, "What the heck.  I've proven I'm insane 
efore; why not try to start the car again, since I tried numerous times a
few 
ours ago with absolutely no luck."
 >
 > I'll bet you can guess what happened next.  The car started immediately
and 
dled perfectly.
 
 
 -- 
 Sean Korb spkorb at spkorb.org http://www.spkorb.org
 '65,'68 Mustangs,'68 Cougar,'78 R100/7,'60 Metro,'59 A35,'71 Pantera #1382
 "The more you drive, the less intelligent you get" --Miller
 "Computers are useless.  They can only give you answers." -P. Picasso
                     
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