[DeTomaso] definition of insanity disproven...

Christopher Kimball chrisvkimball at msn.com
Sun Dec 19 15:18:24 EST 2010


Men stubborn?  I refuse to accept that premise.  I refuse, I refuse, I refuse!!! :)

To: chrisvkimball at msn.com; pantdino at aol.com; detomaso at realbig.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] definition of insanity disproven...
From: fastgrandma at aol.com
Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2010 03:06:48 -0500

Obviously your Pantera is male and just plain stubborn!  That happens a lot.  :)




Judy










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From: Christopher Kimball <chrisvkimball at msn.com>

To: pantdino <pantdino at aol.com>; Pantera List Serve <detomaso at realbig.com>

Sent: Sat, Dec 18, 2010 6:13 pm

Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] definition of insanity disproven...













I checked and rechecked all the grounds, but the rebooting idea is interesting.  
If there were some kind of intermittent problem, that could explain a lot.

Does anyone on the forum have experience with that happening with an MSD 6AL 
box?

I thought maybe it was a temperature problem, but after I left the 
garage doors open for a couple of hours and the car got cold again, it 
started fine.  One more potential reason eliminated!

Thanks,

Chris





To: chrisvkimball at msn.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] definition of insanity disproven...
Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2010 00:46:39 -0500
From: pantdino at aol.com


Does the MSD box have a microprocessor that had to reboot, hence was OK after 
being off for a while?


 


Check all your ground wires-- a bad ground can cause all kinds of weird symptoms


 


Jim













-----Original Message-----

From: Christopher Kimball <chrisvkimball at msn.com>

To: Pantera List Serve <detomaso at realbig.com>

Sent: Sat, Dec 18, 2010 7:33 pm

Subject: [DeTomaso] definition of insanity disproven...






After all my frustration with trying to start the car with no spark evident, 
after dinner this evening I figured, "What the heck.  I've proven I'm insane 
before; why not try to start the car again, since I tried numerous times a few 
hours ago with absolutely no luck."

I'll bet you can guess what happened next.  The car started immediately and 
idled perfectly.

I try very hard not to use foul language, but if anything drives me to stamp my 
feet and yell something I shouldn't--this will be it!

So, lets analyze the problem:

1) car runs fine after I fix a loose terminal.

2) I solder a number of terminals to make sure they are secure

3) upon completion of soldering the terminals, the car won't start--no spark

4) I walk away, have dinner, and two hours later it starts

The only thing I can think of is that while I was working on the soldering, the 
garage door was open and it got quite chilly in the garage.  The temperature 
outside was probably 40 or so, and it was pouring rain.  When I went in for 
dinner, I closed the garage door and since our garage is heated, the temperature 

in the garage gradually increased to probably 65 degrees or so.

What I think I'll do now is open the garage doors again so it will get cold 
again, then see if the car starts.

Man, this is infuriating.  Thanks for letting me lay down on your collective 
couches and tell you my problems...

Sincerely,

Chris
                      
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