[DeTomaso] Hagerty Article: "Pantera: Ripe for picking up, not picking on"

Fri Dec 10 23:38:10 EST 2010

No, the 1965 is not just a Mustang with a cool tag.  It was head and shoulders above the standard Mustang and consistently won on the track.  While I agree that Pantera's are under priced, you are in left field on the '65 GT350.

Scott Black 
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--- On Fri, 12/10/10, michael at michaelshortt.com <michaelsavga at gmail.com> wrote:

> From: michael at michaelshortt.com <michaelsavga at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Hagerty Article: "Pantera: Ripe for picking up, not picking on"
> To: "Jar Von Ritter" <flashbangpop at yahoo.com>
> Cc: detomaso at realbig.com
> Date: Friday, December 10, 2010, 2:41 PM
> It will remain low as long as certain
> people continue to deride the values
> that others place on their cars and boo hoo over the value
> of theirs.  We
> all have to simply stop selling them so cheap, the market
> price is what it
> is because we all say that's what it is.
> 
> Diamonds, they are freaking STADIUM sized piles of
> diamonds, Russia alone
> could destabilize the market in one day with a 1% release
> into the
> marketplace causing prices to be as low as $$200 a carat
> for a vs1 grade in
> a E color, ( That's a nice stone ).
> 
> But unlike Pantera owners, they hoard them up in stockpiles
> and say, "if you
> want one, it costs this much, if you don't want to pay it,
> then you can't
> have one, F^%$ OFF!
> 
> If only we had a DeBeers type of code and we all stuck to
> it.
> 
> Michael Shortt
> 
> Yes, I have mine now and I want the value to go up, explain
> to me what a
> 1965 Shelby 350 is worth 225K, what BS!
> Ity a Mustang with a really cool id tag.
> 
> On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 3:30 PM, Jar Von Ritter <flashbangpop at yahoo.com>wrote:
> 
> > I know I am always saying this but....
> >
> > The endless drubbing the Pantera receives in auto
> circles is, in my
> > estimation,
> > a mixed blessing.  If it weren't for the common
> misperceptions out there
> > about
> > the Pantera, I (and possibly many others) probably
> couldn't afford one.
> >  This
> > car is in a funny little market niche of it's own that
> lets people enjoy
> > owning
> > a bona fide exotic who might not otherwise be able
> to.
> >
> > I used to wonder if I could even call my car a bona
> fide exotic.  I've
> > never
> > even driven a Porsche 911 let alone a Ferrari, Lambo,
> Viper etc. and so had
> > nothing to compare the Pantera to except my 72 Datsun
> 510 wagon. (Don't
> > laugh,
> > this car is fun when you hop it up a bit and put some
> tight rubber under
> > it).
> >  One day a while back at a filling station a guy
> pulls up behind me in a
> > Viper.
> >  He walks up, looks my car over and starts
> telling me how he likes driving
> > his
> > Pantera more than his Viper.  I took that to mean
> the Pantera is indeed a
> > bona
> > fide exotic.  Driving fun is everything. 
> Well done, Allejandro!
> >
> > (Of course, now that I own one, I wouldn't mind the
> value of it going
> > through
> > the roof upwards of $100K like certain 60s muscle cars
> have.  But if it
> > never
> > does, as may well be the case, so be it.)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Sean Korb <spkorb at gmail.com>
> > To: JDeRyke at aol.com
> > Cc: WLHPANTERA at aol.com;
> detomaso at realbig.com
> > Sent: Fri, December 10, 2010 8:21:25 AM
> > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Hagerty Article: "Pantera:
> Ripe for picking up, not
> > picking on"
> >
> > It really doesn't make sense.  If your old
> $50,000 Ferrari needs a clutch
> > job at 5000 miles, and it costs $4000 to do it,
> everyone is like "oh, of
> > course".  But if a Pantera overheated 30 years
> ago, somehow there's no
> > fixin' it.
> >
> > It's all perception.  If you haven't owned one,
> you just don't know.
> >
> > sean
> >
> > On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 10:58 PM, <JDeRyke at aol.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > > A good article and a better reply by Adam. Sadly,
> old first impressions
> > die
> > > hard. I recently had an e-mail conversation with
> Mike Spence of C & D,
> > and
> > > when I mentioned I had a Pantera, he said,
> "Pantera? Now there's a scary
> > > car...." I said, "we'd owned ours for 30 years,
> with my wife doing half
> > the
> > > driving. We raced it, autocrossed it,
> street-drove it 60,000 miles and no
> > > wrecks or damage yet. You really oughta try one
> again...".   I doubt it
> > > will
> > > happen but I'll be sure to forward him Pat Hals'
> Classic LeMans results
> > > next
> > > summer. Cheers- J Deryke
> > >
> > >
> > --
> > Sean Korb spkorb at spkorb.orghttp://www.spkorb.org
> >  '65,'68 Mustangs,'68 Cougar,'78 R100/7,'60
> Metro,'59 A35,'71 Pantera
> > #1382
> > "The more you drive, the less intelligent you get"
> --Miller
> > "Computers are useless.  They can only give you
> answers." -P. Picasso
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