[DeTomaso] Hagerty Article: "Pantera: Ripe for picking up, not picking on"

[Peter Kovacs]

Correct Mike....in an effort to help the value for all of us....I am ready to 
sell my red 74 Pantera for $225,000. Now someone in the group can help us all by 
bringing me a buyer.
 
Peter Kovacs
209 345-6708 
209 436-2000 fx




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From: "michael at michaelshortt.com" <michaelsavga at gmail.com>
To: Jar Von Ritter <flashbangpop at yahoo.com>
Cc: detomaso at realbig.com
Sent: Fri, December 10, 2010 12:41:54 PM
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Hagerty Article: "Pantera: Ripe for picking up, not 
picking on"

It will remain low as long as certain people continue to deride the values
that others place on their cars and boo hoo over the value of theirs.  We
all have to simply stop selling them so cheap, the market price is what it
is because we all say that's what it is.

Diamonds, they are freaking STADIUM sized piles of diamonds, Russia alone
could destabilize the market in one day with a 1% release into the
marketplace causing prices to be as low as $$200 a carat for a vs1 grade in
a E color, ( That's a nice stone ).

But unlike Pantera owners, they hoard them up in stockpiles and say, "if you
want one, it costs this much, if you don't want to pay it, then you can't
have one, F^%$ OFF!

If only we had a DeBeers type of code and we all stuck to it.

Michael Shortt

Yes, I have mine now and I want the value to go up, explain to me what a
1965 Shelby 350 is worth 225K, what BS!
Ity a Mustang with a really cool id tag.

On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 3:30 PM, Jar Von Ritter <flashbangpop at yahoo.com>wrote:

> I know I am always saying this but....
>
> The endless drubbing the Pantera receives in auto circles is, in my
> estimation,
> a mixed blessing.  If it weren't for the common misperceptions out there
> about
> the Pantera, I (and possibly many others) probably couldn't afford one.
>  This
> car is in a funny little market niche of it's own that lets people enjoy
> owning
> a bona fide exotic who might not otherwise be able to.
>
> I used to wonder if I could even call my car a bona fide exotic.  I've
> never
> even driven a Porsche 911 let alone a Ferrari, Lambo, Viper etc. and so had
> nothing to compare the Pantera to except my 72 Datsun 510 wagon. (Don't
> laugh,
> this car is fun when you hop it up a bit and put some tight rubber under
> it).
>  One day a while back at a filling station a guy pulls up behind me in a
> Viper.
>  He walks up, looks my car over and starts telling me how he likes driving
> his
> Pantera more than his Viper.  I took that to mean the Pantera is indeed a
> bona
> fide exotic.  Driving fun is everything.  Well done, Allejandro!
>
> (Of course, now that I own one, I wouldn't mind the value of it going
> through
> the roof upwards of $100K like certain 60s muscle cars have.  But if it
> never
> does, as may well be the case, so be it.)
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Sean Korb <spkorb at gmail.com>
> To: JDeRyke at aol.com
> Cc: WLHPANTERA at aol.com; detomaso at realbig.com
> Sent: Fri, December 10, 2010 8:21:25 AM
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Hagerty Article: "Pantera: Ripe for picking up, not
> picking on"
>
> It really doesn't make sense.  If your old $50,000 Ferrari needs a clutch
> job at 5000 miles, and it costs $4000 to do it, everyone is like "oh, of
> course".  But if a Pantera overheated 30 years ago, somehow there's no
> fixin' it.
>
> It's all perception.  If you haven't owned one, you just don't know.
>
> sean
>
> On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 10:58 PM, <JDeRyke at aol.com> wrote:
>
> > A good article and a better reply by Adam. Sadly, old first impressions
> die
> > hard. I recently had an e-mail conversation with Mike Spence of C & D,
> and
> > when I mentioned I had a Pantera, he said, "Pantera? Now there's a scary
> > car...." I said, "we'd owned ours for 30 years, with my wife doing half
> the
> > driving. We raced it, autocrossed it, street-drove it 60,000 miles and no
> > wrecks or damage yet. You really oughta try one again...".  I doubt it
> > will
> > happen but I'll be sure to forward him Pat Hals' Classic LeMans results
> > next
> > summer. Cheers- J Deryke
> >
> >
> --
> Sean Korb spkorb at spkorb.orghttp://www.spkorb.org
>  '65,'68 Mustangs,'68 Cougar,'78 R100/7,'60 Metro,'59 A35,'71 Pantera
> #1382
> "The more you drive, the less intelligent you get" --Miller
> "Computers are useless.  They can only give you answers." -P. Picasso
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