[DeTomaso] Another E-bay scam...

Tue Dec 7 01:27:28 EST 2010

I offered him $15,000,- if I get the Vin and some more pics of the car.

Offer not accepted. And he answered me with that "funny" mail Mike D. forwarded.

Torbjorn

-----Original Message-----
From: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com] On Behalf Of Sean Korb
Sent: 7. desember 2010 03:46
To: boyd casey
Cc: asajay at asajay.com; detomaso at realbig.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Another E-bay scam...

I think that's a fair price to ask if it has a working ZF... and if all the
trim and interior pieces are there and the title is in his name.  Georgia
doesn't require a title for a car that old, but if I were to try to title it
in North Carolina I would need the last 3 sales/transfer receipts.  If I was
looking for a car I might offer him $14-$15k.  It doesn't hurt to ask, but
the price does keep away lowballers offering $8k or less.

sean

On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 7:19 PM, boyd casey <boyd411 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Everything else aside I was surprised that he thought $19,500 was "below
> market" Either the market has improved dramatically or I am missing
> something.
> Boyd
>
> On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 3:17 PM, <asajay at asajay.com> wrote:
>
> > Yea... I guess I can understand that.
> >
> >
> > Asa Jay
> >
> > Quoting bill gaino <gaino at earthlink.net>:
> >
> > > I think I know why he is not disclosing the vin.. Do we all remember
> > >  4001  That was t boned in Canada, Fixed back, or pieced back.
> > > Anyway  the new seller put it on Ebay. And one of our alert listers
> > > posted a  pic of it wrecked for sale for a dollar.  Just to alert a
> > > potential  buyer. Bill 1362
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: Asa Jay Laughton <asajay at asajay.com>
> > >> Sent: Dec 6, 2010 2:03 PM
> > >> To: detomaso at realbig.com
> > >> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Another E-bay scam...
> > >>
> > >> Dick,
> > >>
> > >> I love you man, but if this is true, he needs to re-think his listing.
> > >>  If he is that knowledgeable he needs to point out if the car is an L
> > >> or pre-L and not let his vague descriptions try to communicate that.
> > >> He also needs to be forthcoming with the VIN.  It's BS that he doesn't
> > >> provide it.  All Panteras have a VIN, including the one hes listed.
> > >> Has it been removed?  Why?  It should be stamped on the footbox, so if
> > >> it's not there, why isn't it there?  he should know this.
> > >>
> > >> Honestly,the listing looks like it was written by a 16 year old, not
> > >> someone who used to import and knows Panteras.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Just my two cents,
> > >> Asa Jay
> > >>
> > >> Quoting Dick Koch <arkoch at earthlink.net>:
> > >>
> > >>> Mike, . I just got off the phone with Guy a few minutes ago, BS'ing
> > >>> about old times.  He is for real as well as the listing.  He lives
> near
> > >>> me in the north Atlanta area.
> > >>>
> > >>> Guy Anderson was responsible, as he stated in his response to Harlem,
> > >>> for most of the Panteras sold in the US in the 80s, doing all the
> prep
> > >>> work necessary to get them licensed in the US.
> > >>>
> > >>> He raced one from 84 to around '90 then converted it to run on the
> > >>> street, a car he took me for a cruise in along with another Pantera
> > >>> owner, Tom Nash, probably 15 to 20 years ago.
> > >>>
> > >>> He is probably one of the most knowledgeable guys (no pun intended)
> on
> > >>> Pantera history, and especially anything to do with the Pantera
> during
> > >>> the 80s.
> > >>>
> > >>> While folks lay back and try to decide if Guy is for real or not, I
> am
> > >>> going to see if a couple of friends of mine that have been interested
> > in
> > >>> a Pantera project car are interested in the car.
> > >>>
> > >>> Dick Koch - Atlanta
> > >>>
> > >>> On 12/6/2010 10:41, MikeLDrew at aol.com wrote:
> > >>>> Hi guys,
> > >>>>
> > >>>> This one is hilarious:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> >
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1972-DETOMASO-PANTERA-GT-NEEDS-PAINT-AND-ENGI
> > >>>> NE-WORK-/330504512863?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item4cf39aa55f
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Being offered for sale without a VIN!   Why?   Well, because most
> > people
> > >>>> will restore the car to their tastes, and of COURSE when you
> > >>>> restore a car,
> > >>>> you put a new VIN on it, right?
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Torbjorn Harlem wrote to the guy asking for the VIN, and his
> response
> > was
> > >>>> hysterical.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Hello There, The car is complete. I purchased this one from a friend
> > to
> > >>>> restore but I have 2 GT5 that I am doing and do not have the time
> > >>>> to complete
> > >>>> this one now. The car is not rusty and it is very cheap because it
> is
> > not
> > >>>> rusty. I used to repair rusty Panteras for Ford Motor company so
> > >>>> I know the
> > >>>> difference. I also imported All of the GT5 and most of the gt4 and
> > >>>> Gt3 cars to
> > >>>> Usa in the 80's. Thanks, Guy
> > >>>>
> > >>>> - countach4v
> > >>>>
> > >>>> =====
> > >>>>
> > >>>> So there!   Bid with confidence!
> > >>>>
> > >>>> (NOT!) :>)
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Mike
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