[DeTomaso] GT40 COSTS Re: more on rear tire width

michael@michaelshortt.com michaelsavga at gmail.com
Thu Aug 26 10:56:02 EDT 2010


I wonder if they all felt that good from inside, could you really tell them
apart from the cockpit?

Michael

On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 10:54 AM, Mad Dog Antenucci
<teampantera at yahoo.com>wrote:

> At least 5 GT-40's? A collector ugh?
> Didn't Tiger Woods have that problem ;-]>
>
>
> Mad Dawg Antenucci
> Team Pantera Racing
> The 1st & still the only vintage race team in open road racing
> www.teampanteraracing.com
>
> --- On Thu, 8/26/10, Jim Gray <grayjim at att.net> wrote:
>
>
> From: Jim Gray <grayjim at att.net>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] GT40 COSTS Re: more on rear tire width
> To: "Mad Dog Antenucci" <teampantera at yahoo.com>, "Kirby Schrader" <
> kirby.schrader at gmail.com>
> Cc: "DeTomaso Mail List" <detomaso at realbig.com>
> Date: Thursday, August 26, 2010, 6:54 AM
>
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>
> Tim Cantwell in Cleveland, OH has a Gulf Oil replica Ford GT with a
> matching Saleen Mustang.  This great car guy owned at least 5 Ford GT's when
> I was in his shop a few years ago.
>
> Jim "green with envy" Gray
>
>
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>
> From: Mad Dog Antenucci <teampantera at yahoo.com>
> To: Kirby Schrader <kirby.schrader at gmail.com>
> Cc: DeTomaso Mail List <detomaso at realbig.com>
> Sent: Thu, August 26, 2010 8:31:10 AM
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] GT40 COSTS Re: more on rear tire width
>
> At all most a 1,000 pounds <?>  lighter then a Pantera that is a hellva
> bargain. Okay engineers how much power to you have to make to compensate for
> that additional weight in a pantera to keep up with aGT-40??
>
> Kirby, do you know John Tiemann who has the blue Gulf Oil replica GT40?
> Not sure  who the chassis builder is that did John's GT40 but John
> routinely runs Silver State and Big Bend open road races and track
> events....he "averaged" 160 mph in May at the NORC  and afterwards said the
> only danger he had was that it handles so well  and so much better then the
> Vette he had that he is reluctant to really let it stretch its legs....he
> already went off the road once at the SORC or BBORR I believe....I don't
> have that problem with the Pantera I know it and I are both at the limit.
> ;-]>
>
>
> Mad Dawg Antenucci
> Team Pantera Racing
> The 1st & still the only vintage race team in open road racing
> www.teampanteraracing.com
>
> --- On Thu, 8/26/10, Kirby Schrader <kirby.schrader at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> From: Kirby Schrader <kirby.schrader at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] GT40 COSTS Re: more on rear tire width
> To: "Mad Dog Antenucci" <teampantera at yahoo.com>
> Cc: "DeTomaso Mail List" <detomaso at realbig.com>
> Date: Thursday, August 26, 2010, 4:19 AM
>
>
>
> A roller from Superformance runs right at $80K these days.
> Now you need an engine, a ZF and put it together.
>
> I know a guy who got a MkII like mine for $70K and it was already put
> together.
> It was one of those 'deals of a lifetime', but he found it.
>
> The market is soft right now for all the reasons you know. If you are
> serious, just keep looking.
> You might not find your color scheme or a MkI instead of a MkII though...
>
> On 25 Aug 2010, at 23:37 PM, Mad Dog Antenucci wrote:
>
> > "The Pantera feels like a Limo after driving the GT40"....so tell us how
> much you got into this bad boy less engine.....or rolling chassis cost?
> >
> > Mad Dawg Antenucci
> > Team Pantera Racing
> > The 1st & still the only vintage race team in open road racing
> > www.teampanteraracing.com
> >
> >
> > --- On Wed, 8/25/10, Kirby Schrader <kirby.schrader at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > From: Kirby Schrader <kirby.schrader at gmail.com>
> > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] more on rear tire width
> > To: "Garth Rodericks" <garth_rodericks at yahoo.com>
> > Cc: "DeTomaso Mail List" <detomaso at realbig.com>
> > Date: Wednesday, August 25, 2010, 1:18 PM
> >
> > Thanks, Garth.
> > You are absolutely right. It isn't a 'real' GT40... but the Superformance
> > models are built very, very close to the original specs. Same chassis,
> etc.
> > etc. The biggest differences are the brakes are Wilwood and the cars have
> > A/C.
> > Well, the GT40R ('R' for race, in this case) they make doesn't have
> A/C...
> >
> > It is, by far, the fastest car I've ridden in or driven. The Pantera
> feels
> > like a limo after driving the GT40.
> >
> > Kirby
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 14:26, Garth Rodericks <
> garth_rodericks at yahoo.com>wrote:
> >
> > > Those purists might also say it's not a 'real' GT40. So who the hell
> cares.
> > > That's one amazing car you have there.
> > >
> > > I've always liked the GT40 BRM wheels too, and think they'd look great
> on a
> > > Pantera, but I think the offsets are wrong:
> > > http://www.poca.com/index.php/gallery/?g2_itemId=18911
> > >
> > >
> > > ------------------------------
> > > *From:* Kirby Schrader <kirby.schrader at gmail.com>
> > > *To:* Garth Rodericks <garth_rodericks at yahoo.com>
> > > *Cc:* DeTomaso Mail List <detomaso at realbig.com>
> > > *Sent:* Wed, August 25, 2010 12:07:38 PM
> > >
> > > *Subject:* Re: [DeTomaso] more on rear tire width
> > >
> > >
> > > I have the 'Halibrands' from Vintage Wheel on my GT40....
> > >
> > > http://www.vintagewheelsus.com/
> > >
> > > http://web.mac.com/kirbyschrader/
> > >
> > > Some purists will say that they are not 'real' GT40 wheels though...
> they
> > > are missing the 'wine glass stem' and they are 17" and.... well, you
> get the
> > > idea.
> > > :-)
> > >
> > > Personally, I like them purely because I can get decent tires for the
> > > street.
> > > When I take it to the track next month, I plan on using the 15" wheels
> with
> > > track tires/slicks.
> > >
> > > FWIW,
> > > Kirby
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 12:40, Garth Rodericks <
> garth_rodericks at yahoo.com>wrote:
> > >
> > >> I think those are the same wheels Bob Benson runs on his black #3
> Pantera
> > >> http://www.poca.com/index.php/gallery/?g2_itemId=25547
> > >>
> > >> I also like the look of the Halibrands as far as aftermarket wheels
> go.
> > >> http://www.poca.com/index.php/gallery/?g2_itemId=18914
> > >> http://www.poca.com/index.php/gallery/?g2_itemId=18786&g2_page=7
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> --- Original Message ---
> > >>
> > >> Oh.... You mean like these?
> > >>
> > >> http://www.pbase.com/oburg/image/127279124
> > >>
> > >> Orville
> > >>
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at
> > >> realbig.com]
> > >> On
> > >> Behalf Of Kirby Schrader
> > >> Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2010 9:58 AM
> > >> To: wkooiman at earthlink.net
> > >> Cc: DeTomaso Mail List
> > >> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] more on rear tire width
> > >>
> > >> Kinesis K58
> > >>
> > >> For example...
> > >>
> > >> http://superbuytires.com/Kinesis/K58%20RWD/
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
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