[DeTomaso] I've got to get going on my restoration

Ken Green kenn_green at yahoo.com
Tue Aug 3 14:21:06 EDT 2010


Could air be carried through the rocker panels?
 
Ken

--- On Tue, 8/3/10, Rob Dumoulin <rob at dumoulins.net> wrote:


From: Rob Dumoulin <rob at dumoulins.net>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] I've got to get going on my restoration
To: "Bill Lewis" <lotus0005 at hotmail.com>
Cc: michael at michaelshortt.com, mbefthomas at comcast.net, detomaso at realbig.com
Date: Tuesday, August 3, 2010, 9:56 AM


Placing a scoop or grill on top of the car would ruin the lines.  Maybe a
tunnel through the middle of the windshield exiting out the back glass.
Padded, it might make a good Hans device for Dawg.

On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 10:31 AM, Bill Lewis <lotus0005 at hotmail.com> wrote:

>
> How about a "gill" on top of the car - lots of ram air there.
>
>
>
>
>
> > Date: Tue, 3 Aug 2010 07:33:57 -0600
> > From: gow2 at rc-tech.net
> > To: jtaphorn at kingwoodcable.com
> > CC: michael at michaelshortt.com; mbefthomas at comcast.net;
> detomaso at realbig.com
> > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] I've got to get going on my restoration
> >
> > John I have applications which use fans to bring the air in; oil cooler
> > and such. I also have an idea about bringing the boundry layer back in
> > passing the a-piller:
> >
> > http://www.rc-tech.net/pantera1/paint1/sv3.jpg
> >
> > http://www.rc-tech.net/pantera1/index.htm
> >
> > Gary
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > John Taphorn wrote:
> > > I intend to eventually install a system on my GT5 to draw air in
> through the
> > > side windows/vents.  My aim is to have a source of cooler denser air
> for the
> > > engine.  The current flow pattern has us extracting air from the engine
> bay
> > > that is heated as it passes by the headers first.
> > >
> > > I have listened to the debate for years about the 4" ear requirement on
> the
> > > side of the car.  The advocates say it is necessary for the ram air
> effect.
> > > That may be so, however, I am not seeking to ram air into the
> carburetor.
> > > We certainly are not benefiting from ram air in the stock
> configuration, so
> > > I don't see why it is postulated as a requirement when ever someone
> inquires
> > > about ingesting air from the side.
> > >
> > > I am confident that if the intakes tract is extended to an opening in
> the
> > > side gill/window even without an ear, the engine will suck in all the
> cooler
> > > denser air that it needs despite the theoretical boundary layer.  Lord
> > > knows, it certainly rushes into my car when I roll down the driver's
> window
> > > without the benefit of anything, like an intake stroke, creating a
> lower
> > > vacuum.
> > >
> > > JT
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Mike Thomas" <mbefthomas at comcast.net>
> > > To: "'Rob Dumoulin'" <rob at dumoulins.net>; <michael at michaelshortt.com>
> > > Cc: "'pantera list'" <detomaso at realbig.com>
> > > Sent: Monday, August 02, 2010 11:21 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] I've got to get going on my restoration
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >> Remember that there has been quite a number of strings regarding the
> > >> merits
> > >> of side scoops and whether they really do any good unless they stick
> out
> > >> far
> > >> enough to extend beyond the boundary layer created by the car.  If I
> > >> recall
> > >> the figure was 6" to 8" out from the side of the car to actually
> "scoop"
> > >> some air.  'Like Michael said, it's your car, but I sure wouldn't want
> > >> mine
> > >> looking like Dumbo on wheels . . .
> > >>
> > >> Something else I would think about too: if your car is an early '71, I
> > >> assume it has all the bright work on it (bumpers, mirrors, window
> trim,
> > >> etc.).  I recently saw an ad on EBay for an early '71 with steel group
> IV
> > >> flares, center exhaust from 180's, etc, and somehow all that just
> didn't
> > >> look right on a chrome bumpered car, having seen most Grp IV clones
> with
> > >> bumpers off or all trim blacked out.
> > >>
> > >> K, that's my .02.
> > >>
> > >> Mike Thomas
> > >>
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com [mailto:
> detomaso-bounces at realbig.com]
> > >> On
> > >> Behalf Of Rob Dumoulin
> > >> Sent: Monday, August 02, 2010 6:56 PM
> > >> To: michael at michaelshortt.com
> > >> Cc: pantera list
> > >> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] I've got to get going on my restoration
> > >>
> > >> Thanks, Mike.  Why do I get the feeling you are preparing for a career
> in
> > >> politics with those two answers?  Seriously though, I like the hood
> vent
> > >> look, want to cut down on under car air pressure while gaining ducts
> for
> > >> brake air, and want a closed box cold air system.  I also considered
> > >> cutting
> > >> a hole in my engine cover and placing the K&N in colder air above it.
>  I
> > >> am
> > >> about function on just about everything on the car except the hood
> vents.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>> On Aug 2, 2010 8:59 PM, "Rob Dumoulin" <rob at dumoulins.net> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> Guys, working out of state is killing my restoration plans and spare
> > >>> time.
> > >>>  I hoped to be farthe...
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