[DeTomaso] I've got to get going on my restoration

GW gow2 at rc-tech.net
Tue Aug 3 12:42:08 EDT 2010


Duno, How big you think'n?



Larry - Ohio Time Corp wrote:
> <<I have applications which use fans>>
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> Gary, are you related in any way to Chris? Are chrome stacks in your future?
>
> Larry (not related to anything) - Cleveland
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com] On
> Behalf Of GW
> Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2010 9:34 AM
> To: John Taphorn
> Cc: michael at michaelshortt.com; Mike Thomas; 'pantera list'
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] I've got to get going on my restoration
>
> John I have applications which use fans to bring the air in; oil cooler 
> and such. I also have an idea about bringing the boundry layer back in 
> passing the a-piller:
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> http://www.rc-tech.net/pantera1/paint1/sv3.jpg
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> http://www.rc-tech.net/pantera1/index.htm
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> Gary
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> John Taphorn wrote:
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>> I intend to eventually install a system on my GT5 to draw air in through
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> the 
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>> side windows/vents.  My aim is to have a source of cooler denser air for
>>     
> the 
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>> engine.  The current flow pattern has us extracting air from the engine
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> bay 
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>> that is heated as it passes by the headers first.
>>
>> I have listened to the debate for years about the 4" ear requirement on
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> the 
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>> side of the car.  The advocates say it is necessary for the ram air
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> effect. 
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>> That may be so, however, I am not seeking to ram air into the carburetor. 
>> We certainly are not benefiting from ram air in the stock configuration,
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> so 
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>> I don't see why it is postulated as a requirement when ever someone
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> inquires 
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>> about ingesting air from the side.
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>> I am confident that if the intakes tract is extended to an opening in the 
>> side gill/window even without an ear, the engine will suck in all the
>>     
> cooler 
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>> denser air that it needs despite the theoretical boundary layer.  Lord 
>> knows, it certainly rushes into my car when I roll down the driver's
>>     
> window 
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>> without the benefit of anything, like an intake stroke, creating a lower 
>> vacuum.
>>
>> JT
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>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Mike Thomas" <mbefthomas at comcast.net>
>> To: "'Rob Dumoulin'" <rob at dumoulins.net>; <michael at michaelshortt.com>
>> Cc: "'pantera list'" <detomaso at realbig.com>
>> Sent: Monday, August 02, 2010 11:21 PM
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] I've got to get going on my restoration
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>>> Remember that there has been quite a number of strings regarding the 
>>> merits
>>> of side scoops and whether they really do any good unless they stick out 
>>> far
>>> enough to extend beyond the boundary layer created by the car.  If I 
>>> recall
>>> the figure was 6" to 8" out from the side of the car to actually "scoop"
>>> some air.  'Like Michael said, it's your car, but I sure wouldn't want 
>>> mine
>>> looking like Dumbo on wheels . . .
>>>
>>> Something else I would think about too: if your car is an early '71, I
>>> assume it has all the bright work on it (bumpers, mirrors, window trim,
>>> etc.).  I recently saw an ad on EBay for an early '71 with steel group IV
>>> flares, center exhaust from 180's, etc, and somehow all that just didn't
>>> look right on a chrome bumpered car, having seen most Grp IV clones with
>>> bumpers off or all trim blacked out.
>>>
>>> K, that's my .02.
>>>
>>> Mike Thomas
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com] 
>>> On
>>> Behalf Of Rob Dumoulin
>>> Sent: Monday, August 02, 2010 6:56 PM
>>> To: michael at michaelshortt.com
>>> Cc: pantera list
>>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] I've got to get going on my restoration
>>>
>>> Thanks, Mike.  Why do I get the feeling you are preparing for a career in
>>> politics with those two answers?  Seriously though, I like the hood vent
>>> look, want to cut down on under car air pressure while gaining ducts for
>>> brake air, and want a closed box cold air system.  I also considered 
>>> cutting
>>> a hole in my engine cover and placing the K&N in colder air above it.  I 
>>> am
>>> about function on just about everything on the car except the hood vents.
>>>
>>>
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>>>> On Aug 2, 2010 8:59 PM, "Rob Dumoulin" <rob at dumoulins.net> wrote:
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>>>> Guys, working out of state is killing my restoration plans and spare 
>>>> time.
>>>>  I hoped to be farthe...
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