[DeTomaso] Video Le Mans Classic 2010, Part 1 and 2

[Charles McCall]

oops, right you are Tomas. Answering before my morning coffee

On 8/1/10, Tomas Gunnarsson <guson at home.se> wrote:
> Actually the blue car belongs to (and is driven by) a Dr Jörgens. Willi
> Braun is the one who prepares the car. This is what I recall from talking to
> them four years ago at least. Didn't get to talk to them this time.
>
> Tomas
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com
> [mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com]On Behalf Of Charles McCall
> Sent: den 1 augusti 2010 11:20
> To: MikeLDrew at aol.com; mbefthomas at comcast.net; detomaso at realbig.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Video Le Mans Classic 2010, Part 1 and 2
>
>
> Not much to add to what Mike had to say. The blue and white car belongs to
> Willi Braun, a German dentist. I spoke to them a little bit after their rear
> decklid flew off during qualifying (!!!!) but they don't speak English very
> well, and all I can do in German is order a beer. Granted, I can order a
> wheat beer, a light beer, a dark beer, a large beer or a small beer, but
> that is literally the limit of my German (priorities...)
>
> His car is pretty quick, and ran all weekend, with or without a rear
> decklid. Here's a few pics sans decklid:
> http://www.poca.com/index.php/gallery/?g2_itemId=24101
> http://www.poca.com/index.php/gallery/?g2_itemId=24107
>
> As Mike said, the orange Pantera, running in plateau 5, was nominally a
> group 3 car but was almost embarassingly slow. And silent! Compared to full
> race cars, this thing just whispered past! But as Mike said, he finished the
> race which is more than a lot of faster and noisier cars can say!
>
> Charles McCall
> 1985 DeTomaso Pantera GT5-S #9375
> "Raising Pantera Awareness Across Europe"
> http://www.poca.com/index.php/gallery/?g2_itemId=2323
>
> -----Mensaje original-----
> De: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com] En
> nombre de MikeLDrew at aol.com
> Enviado el: domingo, 01 de agosto de 2010 9:31
> Para: mbefthomas at comcast.net; detomaso at realbig.com
> Asunto: Re: [DeTomaso] Video Le Mans Classic 2010, Part 1 and 2
>
>
> In a message dated 7/31/10 17 18 17, mbefthomas at comcast.net writes:
>
>
>> Mike Drew, did you
>> know who the cars belonged to?  I believe you and Charlie were there, were
>> you not?
>>
>
> Yes, we were.   My Youtube is acting up on me at the moment (slow
> connection, I'm at my former girlfriend's house, helping her family deal
> with her
> personal effects and do some final settling of her estate), but Patrick Hals
>
> knows all these guys.   The blue car is an L-model imported to Germany only
> a
> few years ago, and converted to a race car.   It's listed as being a 1975
> model, but it's really a '73.   There were two red Gr4 cars; one is #2343,
> which was the De Tomaso factory's official entry (as opposed to the other
> Gr4
> cars which were campaigned by the French, Spanish, Belgian, and German De
> Tomaso distributors, and also by privateers).   The other is #5855,
> originally
> built as a Gr3, failed to start at Le Mans '75, then converted to Gr4 spec
> and raced extensively in Italy.
>
> The orange car is a bone-stock L-model, incredibly slow and poorly
> prepared; it has had a fortune spent on it by people who haven't the
> slightest idea
> what they are doing.   More accurately, that was the case two years ago when
>
> it was in the hands of its former owner.   I think he had about $75K
> invested, and I couldn't see more than about $30K or so.   Super-weak
> bone-stock
> L-model engine for example.   The current owners at least put on a decent
> showing, driving very slowly, but finishing the event, which only one other
> Pantera owner (the blue car, which was expertly prepared) could say.
>
> Mike
>
> Mike
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