[DeTomaso] Video Le Mans Classic 2010, Part 1 and 2

Tomas Gunnarsson guson at home.se
Sun Aug 1 06:17:43 EDT 2010


Actually the blue car belongs to (and is driven by) a Dr Jörgens. Willi
Braun is the one who prepares the car. This is what I recall from talking to
them four years ago at least. Didn't get to talk to them this time.

Tomas

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Not much to add to what Mike had to say. The blue and white car belongs to
Willi Braun, a German dentist. I spoke to them a little bit after their rear
decklid flew off during qualifying (!!!!) but they don't speak English very
well, and all I can do in German is order a beer. Granted, I can order a
wheat beer, a light beer, a dark beer, a large beer or a small beer, but
that is literally the limit of my German (priorities...)

His car is pretty quick, and ran all weekend, with or without a rear
decklid. Here's a few pics sans decklid:
http://www.poca.com/index.php/gallery/?g2_itemId=24101
http://www.poca.com/index.php/gallery/?g2_itemId=24107

As Mike said, the orange Pantera, running in plateau 5, was nominally a
group 3 car but was almost embarassingly slow. And silent! Compared to full
race cars, this thing just whispered past! But as Mike said, he finished the
race which is more than a lot of faster and noisier cars can say!

Charles McCall
1985 DeTomaso Pantera GT5-S #9375
"Raising Pantera Awareness Across Europe"
http://www.poca.com/index.php/gallery/?g2_itemId=2323

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Enviado el: domingo, 01 de agosto de 2010 9:31
Para: mbefthomas at comcast.net; detomaso at realbig.com
Asunto: Re: [DeTomaso] Video Le Mans Classic 2010, Part 1 and 2


In a message dated 7/31/10 17 18 17, mbefthomas at comcast.net writes:


> Mike Drew, did you
> know who the cars belonged to?  I believe you and Charlie were there, were
> you not?
>

Yes, we were.   My Youtube is acting up on me at the moment (slow
connection, I'm at my former girlfriend's house, helping her family deal
with her
personal effects and do some final settling of her estate), but Patrick Hals

knows all these guys.   The blue car is an L-model imported to Germany only
a
few years ago, and converted to a race car.   It's listed as being a 1975
model, but it's really a '73.   There were two red Gr4 cars; one is #2343,
which was the De Tomaso factory's official entry (as opposed to the other
Gr4
cars which were campaigned by the French, Spanish, Belgian, and German De
Tomaso distributors, and also by privateers).   The other is #5855,
originally
built as a Gr3, failed to start at Le Mans '75, then converted to Gr4 spec
and raced extensively in Italy.

The orange car is a bone-stock L-model, incredibly slow and poorly
prepared; it has had a fortune spent on it by people who haven't the
slightest idea
what they are doing.   More accurately, that was the case two years ago when

it was in the hands of its former owner.   I think he had about $75K
invested, and I couldn't see more than about $30K or so.   Super-weak
bone-stock
L-model engine for example.   The current owners at least put on a decent
showing, driving very slowly, but finishing the event, which only one other
Pantera owner (the blue car, which was expertly prepared) could say.

Mike

Mike
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