[DeTomaso] Windshield Install

[John Taphorn]

Thanks Chuck, you confirmed what I thought.  That will always be an option; 
as it is for any other Pantera owner with a leaky gasket.

JT
----- Original Message ----- 
From: " Charles Engles" <cengles at cox.net>
To: "'John Taphorn'" <jtaphorn at kingwoodcable.com>
Cc: <detomaso at realbig.com>
Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 9:20 PM
Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] Windshield Install


> Dear John,
>
>
>         A Pantera windshield story
>
>
>         As stated before, I had my windshield replaced by a reputable 
> local
> company.   I later took it on a run from Oklahoma City to Dallas on a rare
> foggy, misty day.  I detected a leak on the lower right side.   I was
> unhappy.
>
>         Days later, I returned to the glass company and told them of the
> problem.  They said, "No problem" and proceded to use some sort of 
> injector
> with basketball type needle to apply sealant or extra sealant to the
> windshield and gasket.  I was a bit dubious about how well it would work
> after the fact.   I was wrong. It has worked fine without any subsequent
> leaks over the past twelve plus years. FWIW.
>
>                  Warmest regards,  Chuck Engles
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com] 
> On
> Behalf Of John Taphorn
> Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 8:51 PM
> To: MikeLDrew at aol.com; detomaso at realbig.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Windshield Install
>
> Mike
>
> The installer did not recommend sealant and I didn't push it because the
> gasket design would make the application hit or miss if applied before the
> seal was in place.  Most likely, sealant applied to the channel where the
> window sits would be pushed out as you pulled the lower gasket flap out
> through the channel over the edge.  Of course, this sealant would end up 
> all
> over your dashboard and contribute to one hell of a mess.
>
> Now that the seal is in place, I could see it possible to apply sealant if
> you had a basketball needle type injector.
>
> I was keen on the idea of using sealant - I simply had forgotten the
> gasket's design.
>
> JT
>  ----- Original Message ----- 
>  From: MikeLDrew at aol.com
>  To: jtaphorn at kingwoodcable.com ; detomaso at realbig.com
>  Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 8:11 PM
>  Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Windshield Install
>
>
>
>  In a message dated 4/26/10 18 02 8, jtaphorn at kingwoodcable.com writes:
>
>  >With those fresh memories in hand and on the advice on several private
> responses I received, I decided to not use any sealant.
>
>  >>>Oooh, bad idea.  This is one place where you don't want to take any
> shortcuts. :<(
>
>
>
>    The installer came by this evening and made me feel better, It took him
> two tries and two hours to get it in place.  It was among the most 
> difficult
> installations he had to do.  It was a well spent $95.
>
>    Window is in and looks great.
>
>
>
>  Did the professional use sealant?  I certainly hope he did!!!
>
>  FWIW I was in Seattle a few weeks ago and they were telling me about a
> club drive they went on, when they got caught in a downpour.  All but one
> Panteras had leaking windshields.  Several suffered flooded gloveboxes 
> (and
> one had a camera that was destroyed in the glovebox), and one car suffered 
> a
> shorted-out fusebox and died on the side of the road.
>
>  The one car that was water tight, I BELIEVE, had the windshield properly
> sealed with windshield sealant.
>
>  Seattle guys--please correct any inaccuracies in my recollection of the
> story you told. :>)
>
>  And JT--good on you for deciding that discretion is the better part of
> valor on the installation itself.  Although I might be able to get a
> windshield in with the help of friends, there are some jobs best left to 
> the
> professionals, and this is one of them I think!
>
>  Mike
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