[DeTomaso] brake upgrade question

Will Kooiman wkooiman at earthlink.net
Sat Apr 24 17:40:13 EDT 2010


Yes, I've seen the cable, but I opted to install the pedals without the
cable.  I might try the cable when I put it all back together.

 

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From: Julian Kift [mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com] 
Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2010 10:59 AM
To: wkooiman at earthlink.net; gow2 at rc-tech.net; boyd411 at gmail.com
Cc: De Tomaso List
Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] brake upgrade question

 

Will,
 
Good comments and observations, I assume the unit Quella sells is the CNC
Brake part #243, (not actually shown on their website).
 
http://www.cncbrakes.com/sra.asp?grp=sra
<http://www.cncbrakes.com/sra.asp?grp=sra&subgrp=d&series=240&subseries>
&subgrp=d&series=240&subseries
 
I'm sure you are aware that for your Wilwood setup you can purchase a
balance bar adjuster cable that you can remote mount instead of crawling
under the dash each time. I guess it depends on how much you really adjust
it once set.
 
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/WIL-340-4990/
 
Julian
 
 
> From: wkooiman at earthlink.net
> To: gow2 at rc-tech.net; boyd411 at gmail.com
> Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2010 10:45:00 -0500
> CC: detomaso at realbig.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] brake upgrade question
> 
> I'd like to add...
> 
> A dual master cylinder and a balance bar do not go together. You either
> have a dual master or you have a balancer bar with 2 single masters.
> 
> I have a Wilwood pedal assembly with Wilwood masters. The setup that
Quella
> sells uses the stock Pantera pedals. It mounts to the power booster, and
> then has 2 small masters.
> 
> The stock pantera pedal assembly has a bell crank that positions the
clutch
> master towards the center of the car. The clutch pedal is towards the
> outside.
> 
> The Wilwood pedal assembly positions the clutch master towards the
outside,
> inline with the clutch pedal. The negative to this approach is it puts the
> clutch master too close to the sheet metal. I used a BFH to dent the sheet
> metal for clearance, but it wasn't quite enough. I have my car apart right
> now. When I put it back together, I'm going to try a smaller clutch
master.
> 
> And finally, the Wilwood pedal assembly has the balance bar under the
dash.
> It is a pain to adjust. You're on your back and it's difficult to see. The
> Quella/CNC balance bar is under the hood. It's simple to adjust. No, I'm
> not going to swap out my pedals for the Quella/CNC setup. Mine works just
> fine.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com]
On
> Behalf Of GW
> Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2010 10:20 AM
> To: boyd casey
> Cc: De Tomaso List
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] brake upgrade question
> 
> One more thing, a proportioning valve limits fluid to a brake where this 
> adjust and balances pressure. A balance bar system is not only ideally 
> much better then a proportioning valve but this is especially true if 
> you don't have a booster.
> 
> This system is something anyone who can change spark plugs would love.
> 
> Gary
> 
> 
> I have the dual MC balance bar on my car. Like amny things on my car 
> when I got it, it was installed but not adjusted. It was locking up the 
> front brakes way too soon and would slowly skid to a stop. It was bad. I 
> had no question I would rear end some one because I couldn't get the car 
> to stop for nothing.
> 
> We all know the fronts have to lock up first but if they lock up too 
> soon the backs won't help the fronts as all and the tires may as well be 
> card board boxes.
> 
> Balance in braking is everything. The balance bar was EASY to adjust. 
> Loosen up locking bolts, move threaded rod, tighten locking bolts.
> 
> It took me a half hour of playing to get the brakes adjusted. Move the 
> bar, take it out lock the brakes, go back and adjust some more. Everyone 
> knows you want the fronts to lock first but in order to find the 
> threshold you have to take it too far. I adjusted it to where the backs 
> just started to lock up, then adjusted it back across the threshold 
> where it was front bias.
> 
> After that I the fronts still locked up first but the car would plaster 
> you in your seatbelt. Awesome and easy set up to use.
> 
> Gary
> 
> 
> 
> boyd casey wrote:
> > I am upgrading my brakes using Brembo "Big Red" calipers from a 996
> Porsche
> > turbo ( a 911) with 13.1" rotors. I am going to replace my master
cylinder
> > with a dual reservoir model and I wanted to ask about peoples experience
> > with balance bars or proportioning valves. A balance bar seems like it
is
> > allot more complicated and I was wondering what other people have done
and
> > if they have used a proportioning valve instead of a balance bar and
what
> > recomendations people might have.
> > Boyd
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