[DeTomaso] # of surviving cars

Tue Apr 20 15:59:23 EDT 2010

It's not that simple.  

In my opinion, most of us like our cars because we feel free to modify them and not worry about loss of collector's value.  For the same reason, a car's value becomes very subjective because not all people like the same modifications.  And we don't want to drive up the prices because we don't like hanging with wannabe snobs who achieve a feeling superiority through conspicuous consumption.  We value what a person can build more than what they can buy.

While I may not always agree with how POCA does things, the folks doing the work are not in it to make money, and I think Mark is a class act.

Ken

--- On Tue, 4/20/10, michael at michaelshortt.com <michaelsavga at gmail.com> wrote:

From: michael at michaelshortt.com <michaelsavga at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] # of surviving cars
To: "GW" <gow2 at rc-tech.net>
Cc: JDeRyke at aol.com, detomaso at realbig.com
Date: Tuesday, April 20, 2010, 12:25 PM

I think most people agree with you.

If the POCA had a clue, they would realize that this could be a small profit
center for Official Documentation and Registration,
But considering my experience with them just keeping membership records and
billing straight, well that's a lot to hope for.
I know that the players have changed and I know there are not enough of us
to hire full time employees like the Mustang or Shelby
folks.
But if I could get an official looking document that verified the car's
build date, original colors, specs, etc. and this became a part of a
National Registry
and an ADDED Value to MY Carr because I had it ( like Bloomington, the GTO
registry, Cobras or something ) then it would be worth the 50.00 to 100.00
it should cost to
establish such a list.

It will only work if there is an incentive to make it happen, the incentive
has to be CASH,
or private Brazilian Girls attention ( so I'm told ) and since pandering is
illegal, looks like Cash wins out.

The documentation will only be worth anything if we all say it's worth
something, but as we all know, the Pantera community
is made up of rebels, miscreants and hell raisers ( thus the appeal of the
car and probably why we all get along on this forum )
and not "Joiners".
This is one of the few groups that don't applaud the increased values of
cars, but derides those cars as "not being worth that much"
as has been said," I have seen the enemy and it is US"

We have to be better cheerleaders for each other, build up the brand value
and start to account for ourselves
better if we are going to build up the value of these cars.

A registry is one way to fast track the effort and POCA should in my
opinion take the lead in such an endeavor.

all of course in just my opinion,

Michael Shortt

On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 4:08 PM, GW <gow2 at rc-tech.net> wrote:

> I would also like to see it backed by a group such as POCA. In doing so it
> would have to have strict rules or guidelines as to what content is verified
> and to perhaps to what level of verification. Anything less would amount to
> Wikipedea and only muddy the waters of what is true which is why most will
> not participate in anything less..
>
>
> G
>
>
> michael at michaelshortt.com wrote:
>
>> All,
>>  Here's the problem and one that we all have issues with to some degree or
>> another.
>>  Who gets to see the registry and what information gets shared?
>>  Name of Owner
>> Email of Owner
>> Date of Acquisition
>> VIN of Car
>> Photos of Car
>> City of Car
>>  That's what I'm willing to share,
>> where it lives, stays parked or stored, etc.
>>  isn't going to be shared with strangers.
>> Mailing me a bunch of crap isn't going to happen.
>> Asking how much I paid isn't going to happen.
>>  So how can we establish a sight that is user controlled, yet maintainable
>> and linked to all the others?
>>  I own the domain "detomasopanteraregistry.com <
>> http://detomasopanteraregistry.com>" and have for years,
>>
>> when a reasonable and viable answer to the above is presented, I'd be
>> happy
>> to allow the domain name use for such a purpose.
>> It should not be a for profit deal.
>>  I know of no other current idea aside from the effort of  Chuck's ( which
>> requires a password )
>> which is good for privacy but also a PIA, clearly you can't have it both
>> ways.
>>  One idea may be a group effort on a social networking site
>> with everyone creating a page for their car and linking all these pages
>> together as friends...but it requires each owner and when you add people
>> you always add problems.
>>  Can the registry software of Shelby or others be licensed?
>>  Michael Shortt
>>
>>  On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 2:07 PM, <JDeRyke at aol.com <mailto:
>> JDeRyke at aol.com>> wrote:
>>
>>    In a message dated 4/20/10 12:45:46 AM, gow2 at rc-tech.net
>>    <mailto:gow2 at rc-tech.net> writes:
>>
>>    > When POCA or some other club gets involved and makes a real official
>>    > effort like the way the Corvettes and other groups have, it
>>    would make a
>>    > difference.
>>    >
>>    Agreed; want to volunteer to form a group to do one? That's the main
>>    problem, Bill- everyone wants access to such a registry but no one
>>    wants to spend
>>    the years it takes to compile one. Which is a moving target anyway
>>    since
>>    details change daily due to sales, accidents, owner upgrades etc.
>>    And POCA
>>    typically only offers encouragement- they're watching their
>>    pennies pretty
>>    carefully these days. Finally, most good records reside in vendors
>>    files, which
>>    they guard pretty carefully. Good luck- J DeRyke
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