[DeTomaso] New Windsor vs All aluminum new 5.4 modular? - Life after 3 decades with a Cleveland

[Daniel C Jones]

> Great review Dan....what was the build on the Cleveland that made 411RWHP??

Mike McDougal's engine is a 393C (4.03" bore by 3.85" stroke Scat kit
with Probe flat top pistons, 11:1 on 92 octane) with unported CHI-4V
heads, runner equalized Blue Thunder dual plane intake, QFT 750 carb,
a solid lifter cam of specs:

 239/244 (268/273) degrees dur. 0.605"/0.588" lift (less 0.018" lash), 108 LSA

GTS headers with these mufflers:

 http://pantera.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/5650045562/m/4850059725/p/1

They are Cherry Bomb Extreme mufflers (p/n 545-7425, single 2 1/2"
inlet, dual 2 1/4" outlet) with Hooker tips (p/n 520-22202, 2 1/2" X 3").
The pipes are Dynomax 2" mandrel J bends (p/n 289-42310) cut to fit.
Each muffler has a removable insert in each tip.  The inserts are packed
with ATV/Motorcycle muffler packing.  Though Mike had two remaining pulls
we only dyno'd them with the inserts as I forgot they were removable.
The engine was also equipped with this paper element air cleaner:

 http://pantera.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/5650045562/m/2010056465/p/1

> The dyno operator was surprised at how much power it made.

Dynomation estimates the engine at 417 RWHP and in the 525 HP range at
the crank.  Would be more with better mufflers and air cleaner (needs a
stub stack and more filter area).

Dan Jones