[DeTomaso] New Windsor vs All aluminum new 5.4 modular? - Life after 3 decades with a Cleveland

Sun Apr 18 18:26:56 EDT 2010

We may be talking about two different blocks Jack.  This particular 5.4 block that I mentioned is a Shelby  aluminum block using a Ford patented process called PTWA or Plasma Transfer Wire Arc.....where  a high energy metal--spraying technique deposits a 1010 alloy steel  liner in the aluminum cylinders that is only 150 mics thick. I'm sure Shelby isn't building the blocks but I'll call Gary Patterson (Manager at Shelby) on Monday to see what he says.  

Mad Dawg Antenucci 
Team Pantera Racing 
The 1st & still the only vintage race team in open road racing 
www.teampanteraracing.com

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From: "JDeRyke at aol.com" <JDeRyke at aol.com>
To: teampantera at yahoo.com; detomaso at realbig.com
Sent: Sun, April 18, 2010 12:41:28 PM
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] New Windsor vs All aluminum new 5.4 modular? - Life after 3 decades with a Cleveland

In a message dated 4/18/10 10:53:21 AM, teampantera at yahoo.com writes:

> I mean would not a better idea be the NEW 5.4 aluminum modular block that 
> makes an easy 550-600HP and more importantly is a 100+ pounds LIGHTER look 
> one hellva lot better in the back of a Pantera?!!!
> 
Can't answer the question of low power from magazine engine builds, Dawg- 
but an all-aluminum   DOHC 5.4 weighs 625 lbs according to Ford. The EFI plus 
all those steel cams, valves & drives add up! An iron-head 351-C weighs 550 
also according to Ford.   I haven't seen your ride for years but a stroker 
crank is a few pounds heavier than a stocker; your 302Bs, intake & aluminum 
waterpump knock off about 80 lbs so your stroker 351-C is likely around 475 
right now. The Modular gives a flat firewall due to the shorter block but 
its not particularly light. 
If I was going modular, I'd find someone who bores & strokes modulars to 
5.8 liters (357 cubes) and get more torque, better mileage and live with the 
hemi-like size, weight & impressive appearance. Bring more of that oil money 
you'll be getting, though.... Cheers- J DeRyke
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