[DeTomaso] Sacrificial Panteras / Moving Our Marque Forward
Christopher Kimball
chrisvkimball at msn.com
Sun Apr 11 00:37:12 EDT 2010
Panteras Northwest had a "fun run" today--visiting two cool classic car boutiques. So at least we had a couple of Panteras seeing the light of day!
Chris Kimball
PNW Pres.
> From: wdemelo at cogeco.ca
> To: detomaso at realbig.com
> Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 22:46:50 -0400
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Sacrificial Panteras / Moving Our Marque Forward
>
> I don't agree with destroying Pantera's to get 15 minutes of fame. But it
> would be nice to get some exposure. God knows we don't do it. Most Pantera's
> sit in garages and get spoken about on forums.
> Will
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Christopher Kimball" <chrisvkimball at msn.com>
> To: <dfcex at excaliburre.com>; "Pantera List Serve" <detomaso at realbig.com>
> Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2010 9:17 PM
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Sacrificial Panteras / Moving Our Marque Forward
>
>
> >
> > Very well-said!
> >
> > Sincerely,
> >
> > Chris
> > #3846
> >
> >> From: dfcex at pacbell.net
> >> To: detomaso at realbig.com
> >> Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 13:31:09 -0700
> >> Subject: [DeTomaso] Sacrificial Panteras / Moving Our Marque Forward
> >>
> >> Personally I think it's very sad that any member of the Pantera community
> >> would be so desperate for money as to allow their Pantera, which, in most
> >> of our cases is an extension of our soul, to be damaged or destroyed for
> >> consideration that is likely only slightly above market value, and
> >> completely disgusting that any leader of our community would assist in
> >> this effort.
> >> I can't see myself supporting any publication or organization which
> >> facilitates in the destruction of our prizes.
> >> There must be better ways for Panteras to get their "fifteen minutes"
> >> without being sacrificed to sell movie tickets.
> >> This is as low as it gets.
> >> If it's really so important for Pantera's to get "fifteen minutes" we
> >> should be expending our energy and resouces towards the campainging of
> >> Panteras in mainstream and public competitions.
> >> Unlike other marques, we don't have factory support. We need to support
> >> and encourage any vendors and manufacturers with the resources,
> >> capability and motivation to, in turn, support our owners and vehicles
> >> with the time, oppurtunity and ability to campaign.
> >> The best examples which come to my mind, are, of course, Mad Dog who for
> >> years has been forcing us to test our manhood (and womanhood - haven't
> >> forgotten about you, Laurie, running SS). I think The Dawg's
> >> "encouragement" has contirbuted incredibly, if unoficially, to R&D and
> >> real life testing of the modifications and improvements to "finish" the
> >> Pantera into a real Supercar.
> >> Larry Stock, The Byers, Dennis Quella and others have helped considerably
> >> through their supprt and participation in competitions.
> >> Gary Hall, in his day, did more than any one person to further the
> >> Pantera. He raced for decades, developed and/or brought to market
> >> hundreds of products and trained/mentored the majority of our current
> >> generation of So Cal vendors and shops.
> >>
> >> Unfortunatly, when one of our owners is brave enough to compete and they
> >> lose an engine or component the total replacement / repair cost has to
> >> come exclusively out of their pocket, making it expensive and
> >> discouraging their continued particiaption in competitions.
> >>
> >> Collectivlely we all spend substantial amounts on parts and service.
> >> Probably in the millions.
> >> And not just with Pantera only shops, but with all kinds of parts
> >> suppliers.
> >>
> >> WHAT IF we could pledge support to those shops and manufacturers who
> >> support our fallen warriors?
> >>
> >> WHAT IF each local chapter could organize member assistance to help those
> >> who compete with getting their cars back to the track or ORR?
> >>
> >> WHAT IF those members with connections worked towards gaining entry and
> >> publicity for Panteras into mainstream and heavily viewed events?
> >>
> >> It does help the value and reputation of our vehicles when they are seen
> >> going fast.
> >>
> >> Pantera participation in track and open road events has dropped over this
> >> past ten years. Heck, when I first ran Silver State in '99 we had like
> >> twleve Panteras.
> >> Over the same period Jim Saxton's TPOC track events at Wilow Springs has
> >> dropped from like 20 Panteras to one or two.
> >> It's great we have a Pantera running Bonneville, which get's allot of
> >> press.
> >> Having a Pantera particpate in that TV series last year was also
> >> fantastic.
> >> Of course there will never be a Pantera running in NASCAR or other top
> >> tier events, but there are plenty of other events which get significant
> >> coverage these days.
> >>
> >> We need to have Panteras competing in the Historics, so we need cars that
> >> can be sanctioned, either by their history or as "tribute" cars.
> >>
> >> We need Panteras competing, and moving up in Club racing, like SCCA.
> >>
> >> If the organizers of the ORR events don't pull in worthwhile publicity,
> >> we can field a team and, thorugh our connections, use the occasion to
> >> stir up our own publicity. Our cars are going on 40 years old now. A team
> >> of 40 year old vintage exotics competing sucessfully at high speed is
> >> indeed newsworthy.
> >>
> >> Let's move the Pantera name forward in a positive and supportive manner.
> >>
> >> For my small part I intend to continue competing The Beast in track
> >> events and moving up through the club racing ranks.
> >>
> >> I'll also volunteer The Beast for the Super Sport bracket (160 mph avg.)
> >> in the September Silver State Challenge, on the condition (challenge) I'm
> >> joined by at least two rookies.
> >>
> >> It would help if we could come up with a sponsorship campaign to offset
> >> the entry fees and other expenses, which are significant. Maybe we have
> >> some business minded members who can think along the lines of developing
> >> this campaign. What sponsors to approach and what to offer them in
> >> return?
> >>
> >> We also need the chapters to support any of their members who have the
> >> guts to step up, perhaps with a late August tech event specifically to
> >> support the competing vehicles.
> >>
> >> It's not just track and ORR events though. Let's keep our thinking caps
> >> on and our antennas out for other high exposure oppurtunities to show off
> >> what great cars our Panteras really are (and not just by crashing them)!
> >>
> >> Dan
> >>
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