[DeTomaso] Race trailers

Tue Apr 6 20:00:55 EDT 2010

Hidden theft recovery system with GPS??

-----Original Message-----
>From: Mark McWhinney <msm at portata.com>
>Sent: Apr 6, 2010 6:02 PM
>To: michael at michaelshortt.com, detomasoregistry at gmail.com
>Cc: List <detomaso at realbig.com>
>Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Race trailers
>
>Great lists.
>
>The only think I can add is:
>
>- Winch for loading dead car
>- Good locks for the doors
>- Good locks for the wheels and/or hitch
>- Wheel blocks for the trailer, wheel blocks for the car in the trailer
>- Boom box / TV for end of day relaxing especially if camping
>- Pantera banner / flag to hang from side of trailer
>
>
>- Also, practice backing up with the trailer before getting into a tight
>spot on the road
>
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>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com]
>On Behalf Of michael at michaelshortt.com
>Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 3:39 PM
>To: detomasoregistry at gmail.com
>Cc: List
>Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Race trailers
>
>OK, road racing, more time to kill, less track time
>
>
>Bar B que grill
>Propane
>camp stove
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>are you camping or hoteling it?
>
>milk jugs filled with sand to hold down the EZ UP tent legs ( the wind
>will
>grab one and do some serious damage to another car FAST )
>Tenet stakes and a real camping hammer/hatchet
>lots of rope, like a repelling cotton rope
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>power cords
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>blue plastic tarps
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>rain suits
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>small vacuum 110V cleaner ( tire bits and dirt )
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>a weed wacker ( you'll understand )
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>snake bite kit
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>a supply of real nice toliet paper, track bathrooms SUCK and they use
>crappy
>TP
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>flip flops ( track showers are disgusting )
>fresh towels
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>tree trimming saw/clippers
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>fire starter
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>duraflame logs
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>
>A lot depends upon if this "friend" is going to fully experience the
>road
>racing lifestyle and hang out at the track
>at night
>
>or be the rich prick who brings a semi truck and a provost and drives up
>in
>the bentley,
>changes in the motorcoach, chats with Nigel the car handler,
>drives a few laps, goes back in the motorcoach with wife #3, does his
>busioness, then comes out to qualify or race and them drives back home
>while Nigel wraps up camp and handles the Prevost and the semi
>
>I HATE those guys and used to beat their ass every week,
>
>but guess who was having more fun....
>
>NOT ME.
>
>
>Michael Shortt
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>On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 6:10 PM, michael at michaelshortt.com <
>michaelsavga at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> bag chairs
>>
>> Beach umbrella
>>
>> camera
>>
>> portable welder
>>
>> grinder
>>
>> spare tubing
>>
>> spare corners
>>
>> spare nose
>>
>> brake pads
>>
>> brake bleeding kit
>>
>> dirty oil/fluids containers
>>
>> spray can rack mounted on the inside of the door
>>
>> brake clean (case)
>>
>> carb cleaner ( case)
>>
>> wd 40
>>
>> black spray paint
>>
>> windex
>>
>> paper towel roll holder
>>
>> water bottles
>>
>> a shower curtain on a clothesline inside the trailer
>> , you make your own changing area to get into your drivers suit, a
>metal
>> folding chair
>> ( ever try to put on Nomex socks and tie your shoes in a bag chair?)
>>
>> eye wash kit with squirt bottle
>>
>> super glue
>>
>> hans device or something
>>
>> a walking crutch
>> a neck brace
>> ace bandages
>> ice packs
>> burn treatment
>>  mechanics gloves
>> cotton gloves
>> electrical tape
>>
>> spare MSD box
>> spare electris everything for the car
>>
>> carb jets
>>
>> spare helmet with spare visors
>> tear offs
>>
>> Michael Shortt
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>> On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 5:52 PM, michael at michaelshortt.com <
>> michaelsavga at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> You didn't say if this was dirt or asphalt racing?
>>>
>>> Here's a partial stab at it
>>>
>>> Maximum size (presume: tow behind a 'Bourbon 13,000 lbs max)
>(height,
>>> length, width,
>>> weight.)
>>>
>>> Depending upon the tracks that yo are going to visit, enough extra
>room
>>> for few tool boxes and a golf cart is always nice.
>>>
>>> frame (steel versus aluminum)
>>>
>>> Steel is better  for heavier "stcoK" type car if you have the torque
>to
>>> pull it
>>>
>>>
>>> dual axle (versus triple axle)
>>>
>>> More a function of weight and length, you will find that longer
>trailers
>>> have three and shorter trailers have two.
>>>
>>> walls, flooring, roof etc.
>>>
>>> INSULATED is nice, you can buy a RV A/C unit or two and roof mount
>them
>>> easy as pie, they run off of a portable genny that you'll want to
>roll out
>>> of thye trailer, not built in, to loud and too  much trouble.
>>>
>>> vents
>>>
>>> a must have if you are in the south and or have gas stored inside,
>you'll
>>> want the air to circulate while being towed and when locked up
>>>
>>> electrical (12V batteries, 110 converters, amps needed)
>>>
>>> most tracks will NOT have those outlets, people use gennys, nice to
>have a
>>> good one, for track s that have  110/220, expect to pay dearly.
>>>
>>>
>>> lighting
>>>
>>> Basic flores. tubes are fine, you'll want a few work light treess
>from
>>> Harbor freight to use outside the trailer.
>>>
>>> security
>>>
>>> Pad locks, tounge locks and I rigged up a car alarm powered by a 12v
>>> battery hooked up to a solar recharger mounted on the roof,
>>> even even the battery only lasted 2 week before it died.
>>>
>>> fuel storage
>>>
>>> to get it to and from th track ONLY, them get it out of the trailer.
>>> PERIOD.
>>>
>>> tire storage
>>>
>>> Wall racks mounted to frame, tire rack has them, a good welder can
>>> fabricate what you need from 1" square tubing in less than a couple
>of
>>> hours.
>>>
>>> work bench ideas
>>>
>>> Sounds good,, almost never used, you would be better served with a
>couple
>>> of folding tables to set up trackside.
>>>
>>> My trailer work bench was a helmet holder and buffet line 75% of the
>time.
>>>
>>> tool boxes
>>>
>>> Rolling ones from home, install Etrack and roll'en in and out when
>you go.
>>> double secure them with ratchet straps
>>>
>>>
>>> weight balance
>>>
>>> follow trailer maker's rules, you want it more nose heavy or it will
>>> fishtail all over the highway.
>>>
>>> awning
>>>
>>> Nice to have.
>>>
>>> a couple of EZ up tents are much cheaper and unlike awnings, you can
>move
>>> them around as the sun moves around.
>>>
>>>
>>> stowage (how best to place what where and how to secure)
>>>
>>> Nose box for dirty stuff, wheel chocks, chains, etc.
>>>
>>> list of options/contents etc.
>>>
>>> rolls of indoor outdoor carpet to lay down
>>>
>>> sheets of 1/4 plywood to lay down
>>>
>>> jack pads steel plates for soft ground
>>>
>>> Bug lights
>>>
>>> frsh water
>>>
>>> fire ext
>>>
>>> first aid kits
>>>
>>> flash lights
>>>
>>> Nitrogen bottle,
>>>
>>> always good for pit stops
>>>
>>>  portable compressor ?,
>>>
>>> for use when you have more time
>>>
>>>
>>> ice chest.
>>>
>>> duh!!!!!!
>>>
>>> What to bring (what not to bring, etc).
>>>
>>> bug spray
>>>
>>> spf 30
>>>
>>> hats
>>>
>>> towles
>>>
>>>
>>> paper towels
>>>
>>> hand cleaner
>>>
>>> portable parts cleaner set up
>>>
>>> troble lights
>>>
>>>
>>> jack stands
>>>
>>>
>>> 2 floor jacks
>>>
>>> extra air tools ( 2 of everything
>>>
>>> pop rivet kits
>>>
>>> Nut sert kits
>>>
>>> zip ties
>>>
>>> bungee cords
>>>
>>> duct tape
>>>
>>> food
>>>
>>> portable fan on a stand
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Michael Shortt
>>>
>>>   On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 5:08 PM, <detomasoregistry at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> A friend has asked me for some ideas/advice on getting and setting
>up a
>>>> trailer (enclosed)
>>>> for a
>>>>
>>>> "race" hobby car.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> A friend of his has/had a 24 foot (?) trailer he might sell
>(upgrading
>>>> his setup), neither
>>>> guy is in a hurry.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I was un-willing to offer much advice as I don't currently have a
>race
>>>> trailer, but I told
>>>> him I'd help gather info.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Seems like a great topic to infinitely BS about!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sure it might be good to go to a track event, walk the pits and ask
>for
>>>> advice.  So lets
>>>> pretend this is what I am doing!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> So if people could point me to websites or offer their own
>knowledge,
>>>> from experience,
>>>> that would be great.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> My old website had a bunch of pages and pics Pantera-specific
>trailers,
>>>> but when Geocities
>>>> went away the collection
>>>>
>>>> was probably lost.
>>>>
>>>> So if people would send some pics of the inside of their trailers
>that
>>>> would help with the
>>>> layout/planning phase,
>>>>
>>>> and help us not forget something important.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> So now is your chance to help a "newbie"!
>>>>
>>>> I'll start a list of.  Things to consider:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Maximum size (presume: tow behind a 'Bourbon 13,000 lbs max)
>(height,
>>>> length, width,
>>>> weight.)
>>>>
>>>> frame (steel versus aluminum)
>>>>
>>>> dual axle (versus triple axle)
>>>>
>>>> walls, flooring, roof etc.
>>>>
>>>> vents
>>>>
>>>> electrical (12V batteries, 110 converters, amps needed)
>>>>
>>>> lighting
>>>>
>>>> security
>>>>
>>>> fuel storage
>>>>
>>>> tire storage
>>>>
>>>> work bench ideas
>>>>
>>>> tool boxes
>>>>
>>>> weight balance
>>>>
>>>> awning
>>>>
>>>> stowage (how best to place what where and how to secure)
>>>>
>>>> list of options/contents etc.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Nitrogen bottle, portable compressor ?,
>>>>
>>>> ice chest.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> What to bring (what not to bring, etc).
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> This is just a partial list to get you guys thinking.
>>>>
>>>> I may even add this stuff to a web page for all to view.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You may contact me directly (off-list) if you prefer.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Chuck
>>>>
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>>>
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>>> Savannah, Georgia
>>> www.michaelshortt.com
>>> michael at michaelshortt.com
>>> 912-232-9390
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>michael at michaelshortt.com
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