[DeTomaso] MANGUSTA ZF FLUID / Dick Ruzzin

[Tomas Gunnarsson]

About as common as dash-1s in Panteras is my guess. :-)

Tomas

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "bill gaino" <gaino at earthlink.net>
To: "Julian Kift" <julian_kift at hotmail.com>; <mikeldrew at aol.com>; <guson at home.se>; "De Tomaso List" <detomaso at realbig.com>
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 6:08 PM
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] MANGUSTA ZF FLUID / Dick Ruzzin


>I have a dash1 in 1362. It has a dipstick on the driver side. It also drips a little at each output shaft. I just keep it full on the stick, and refill it to that level when I change fluid. Is the dipstick unusual?
> 
> -----Original Message-----
>>From: Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com>
>>Sent: Sep 11, 2009 8:41 AM
>>To: mikeldrew at aol.com, guson at home.se, De Tomaso List <detomaso at realbig.com>
>>Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] MANGUSTA ZF FLUID / Dick Ruzzin
>>
>>
>>Okay, so putting drinking aside and assuming the 2.1 liters refers to the GT40/Mangusta orientation for the -1, I have the following niggling questions...
>>
>> 
>>
>>1. What oil volume would be correct for the -1 in a Pantera (what Jack refers to as a -1.5)?
>>
>>2. What volume of oil is appropriate for a -2 when flipped for use in a GT40?
>>
>> 
>>
>>Julian
>> 
>>> From: MikeLDrew at aol.com
>>> Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009 03:49:32 -0400
>>> To: guson at home.se; Detomaso at realbig.com
>>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] MANGUSTA ZF FLUID / Dick Ruzzin
>>> 
>>> 
>>> In a message dated 9/11/09 0 40 20, guson at home.se writes:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> > Jack provided me with exploded view parts drawings for the dash-1 in the 
>>> > same style as the ZF manual so maybe there is a dash-1 manual out there 
>>> > like the one we're used to seeing but so far I haven't seen it.
>>> > 
>>> 
>>> In the past few days I have heard repeated references to the Dash-1 manual 
>>> from people who actually own it. Apparently the gearbox in the manual is 
>>> oriented in the GT40/Mangusta style, as opposed to the later Pantera style.
>>> 
>>> The early Panteras came with Dash-1 transaxles; for the most part, these 
>>> were Mangusta transaxles that De Tomaso already had sitting on the shelf, that 
>>> were returned to ZF in Germany, and modified for use in the Pantera until 
>>> the new Dash-2 units were ready for production. They were done in different 
>>> series, small batches of 30 here, 40 there, each of which had slight detail 
>>> differences, different part numbers, different internal gear ratios etc. 
>>> Although the Ford parts book only lists a handful of varients, I have a stack 
>>> of internal memorandums between Ford, ZF and De Tomaso in which the details 
>>> of the program are spelled out; some gearbox varients were made in 
>>> quantities of less than 10 units at first...
>>> 
>>> Mike
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