[DeTomaso] MANGUSTA ZF FLUID / Dick Ruzzin

bill gaino gaino at earthlink.net
Fri Sep 11 12:08:03 EDT 2009


I have a dash1 in 1362. It has a dipstick on the driver side. It also drips a little at each output shaft. I just keep it full on the stick, and refill it to that level when I change fluid. Is the dipstick unusual?

-----Original Message-----
>From: Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com>
>Sent: Sep 11, 2009 8:41 AM
>To: mikeldrew at aol.com, guson at home.se, De Tomaso List <detomaso at realbig.com>
>Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] MANGUSTA ZF FLUID / Dick Ruzzin
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>Okay, so putting drinking aside and assuming the 2.1 liters refers to the GT40/Mangusta orientation for the -1, I have the following niggling questions...
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>1. What oil volume would be correct for the -1 in a Pantera (what Jack refers to as a -1.5)?
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>2. What volume of oil is appropriate for a -2 when flipped for use in a GT40?
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>Julian
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>> From: MikeLDrew at aol.com
>> Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009 03:49:32 -0400
>> To: guson at home.se; Detomaso at realbig.com
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] MANGUSTA ZF FLUID / Dick Ruzzin
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>> In a message dated 9/11/09 0 40 20, guson at home.se writes:
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>> > Jack provided me with exploded view parts drawings for the dash-1 in the 
>> > same style as the ZF manual so maybe there is a dash-1 manual out there 
>> > like the one we're used to seeing but so far I haven't seen it.
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>> In the past few days I have heard repeated references to the Dash-1 manual 
>> from people who actually own it. Apparently the gearbox in the manual is 
>> oriented in the GT40/Mangusta style, as opposed to the later Pantera style.
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>> The early Panteras came with Dash-1 transaxles; for the most part, these 
>> were Mangusta transaxles that De Tomaso already had sitting on the shelf, that 
>> were returned to ZF in Germany, and modified for use in the Pantera until 
>> the new Dash-2 units were ready for production. They were done in different 
>> series, small batches of 30 here, 40 there, each of which had slight detail 
>> differences, different part numbers, different internal gear ratios etc. 
>> Although the Ford parts book only lists a handful of varients, I have a stack 
>> of internal memorandums between Ford, ZF and De Tomaso in which the details 
>> of the program are spelled out; some gearbox varients were made in 
>> quantities of less than 10 units at first...
>> 
>> Mike
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