[DeTomaso] head drilling for air release

Fri Sep 4 21:59:52 EDT 2009

You could be right, Julian.... I may have been thinking about the  
difference between the remote and the engine mounted versions.

On 4 Sep 2009, at 6:02 PM, Julian Kift wrote:

>
> Just catching up with this thread, but as I wrote with an earlier  
> response the Meziere Rep recommended the 55gpm version in a mid  
> engine application independent of HP rating. The price differential  
> between the 55 and 30 gpm versions isn't that great from what I  
> recall.
>
>
>
> Julian
>
>> Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2009 15:47:03 -0500
>> From: kirby.schrader at gmail.com
>> To: michael at michaelshortt.com
>> CC: detomaso at realbig.com
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] head drilling for air release
>>
>> This thread has really gone adrift here... kinda' sorta'...
>>
>> The pump I got was the Meziere remote 55gpm version. You could do  
>> with
>> the smaller version, no problem. Depends on your HP rating...
>> I think it is 30gpm. www.meziere.com will get you the info. You'll
>> have to call them for pricing.
>>
>> I paid $600, I think, for the pump and fittings. Add on more for the
>> braided line and other fittings.
>> It isn't low cost.
>>
>> I probably spent around 25 hours total, but I had to disassemble the
>> front of the car to get the original coolant tube out and run the new
>> lines.
>>
>> Be aware that they also have an engine mounted solution that just
>> bolts on in place of your original pump. They even have an idler
>> pulley set up if you want to keep your belt setup. The engine mounted
>> pumps are cheaper. I think around $450.
>> This solution also would reduce installation time to a couple of  
>> hours.
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 3:24 PM,
>> michael at michaelshortt.com<michaelsavga at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> How much does it cost from ordering to driving down the street and  
>>> how many
>>> hours of labor?
>>>
>>> This sounds like a wish list addition.
>>>
>>> Michael Shortt
>>>
>>> On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 4:22 PM, Kirby Schrader <kirby.schrader at gmail.com 
>>> >
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Question 1
>>>> No. You probably already have a big enough battery and alternator.
>>>>
>>>> Question 2
>>>> Yes, yes, yes.
>>>> :-)
>>>>
>>>> I have mine hooked up directly. i.e., you turn on the key, a relay
>>>> clicks and you are flowing water at its maximum rate (my pump is
>>>> 55gpm). It was easiest, straightforward and sometimes I get lazy.  
>>>> You
>>>> have to listen closely to be able to hear it with the engine off,  
>>>> so
>>>> it's not like it's too noisy or anything...
>>>>
>>>> If you want, you can do like Mike Trusty and others have done by
>>>> putting a PWM (pulse width modulator) on it and controlling the  
>>>> flow
>>>> based on the temperature.
>>>>
>>>> Up to you on how high tech you go.
>>>>
>>>> The other nice thing is... I have a flat engine cover! No water  
>>>> pump
>>>> sticking out!
>>>> Pictures on request.
>>>>
>>>> Kirby
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 3:10 PM,
>>>> michael at michaelshortt.com<michaelsavga at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Did you have to install a second battery or a supersized  
>>>>> alternator?
>>>>>
>>>>> How does it work ar various rpms, does it speed up or just have  
>>>>> a single
>>>>> constant flow rate?
>>>>>
>>>>> Michael Shortt
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 4:01 PM, Kirby Schrader
>>>>> <kirby.schrader at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'd agree on that one. I put a cover plate on the front of my  
>>>>>> engine,
>>>>>> mounted a remote Meziere pump up front and haven't looked back.  
>>>>>> Again,
>>>>>> a strong suggestion from Mike Trusty and I am happy with it. When
>>>>>> filling with coolant, turn on the key and circulate the air out  
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> your heart's content! THEN start the engine.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Kirby
>>>>>>
>>>>>> (not done on my Pantera yet, but will do so when I get it back)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 2:23 PM, Ken Green<kenn_green at yahoo.com>  
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> All this sure makes a remote electric water pump sound like a  
>>>>>>> good
>>>>>>> idea.  Just mount it low and let it flow.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ken
>>>>>>>
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