[DeTomaso] Recap... Asa's adventure in Pantera fluid dynamics

Asa Jay Laughton asajay at asajay.com
Fri Sep 4 10:06:12 EDT 2009


I had a clear rubber tube attached to the top of the radiator petcock 
corner, it indicated the radiator was full.  So I capped it and kept 
bleeding the system, or so I thought.

Asa Jay

Asa Jay Laughton, MSgt, USAFR, Retired

& Shelley Marie
Spokane, WA

1971 Mach I Mustang  [ASA JAY]
1973 Pantera L 5533  [ASASCAT]
    
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Will Demelo wrote:
> <<<<At this time, all that makes sense is a massive air pocket that at 
> some
> point got stuck at the water pump, much as I don't want to believe 
> it.>>>>
>
> I don't believe that a large pocket of air got "stuck" at the pump. 
> You had a hole drilled in the stat and the system was clearly filled 
> with coolant. The coolant was not flowing through the system.
> Do you have a drain petcock at the top of the rad?
> Will
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Asa Jay Laughton" <asajay at asajay.com>
> To: <detomaso at realbig.com>
> Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 12:36 AM
> Subject: [DeTomaso] Recap... Asa's adventure in Pantera fluid dynamics
>
>
>> To recap:
>>
>> - Pulled the thermostat, boil tested it, worked fine.
>> - Yes, it was installed -correctly-, that is with the spring and copper
>> plug portion IN the block.
>> - Alternator belt was near 60 lb and turning the water pump properly.
>> - Pulled the belt and heater return hose, used tie-wrap inserted to
>> water pump hole to validate impeller was turning.
>> - Filled the heater hose line while I had it off then installed it back
>> to the pump.
>> - Began filling the block from the thermostat hole, it's big and it's
>> currently open.
>> - Turned the water pump by hand to move fluid and expel some air; it is
>> apparent the water pump is capable of moving the coolant.
>>
>> At this point, the heads have no coolant in them, as they sit higher
>> than the thermostat opening.  Filling the heater lines from the heater
>> hose introduced an air pocket in the heater core, as I was filling from
>> a higher location than the other hose and at some point the whole thing
>> stopped filling, but nothing more came out the lower hose.  The car now
>> sits.
>>
>> Tomorrow, I'll install the upper pipe.  I'm not sure if I'm going to run
>> with or without a thermostat yet.  At least I know I have two different
>> thermostats that work.  But I do have questions, I'll set it up first.
>>
>> I put nearly two gallons of coolant into the block tonight while turning
>> the water pump by hand.
>>
>> - Could I have blown off that much in steam?
>> - How many gallons does a typical Pantera take?  (Entire system, engine,
>> pipes and radiator, all dry)
>>
>> At this time, all that makes sense is a massive air pocket that at some
>> point got stuck at the water pump, much as I don't want to believe it.
>>
>> On another note, I'm taking my original overflow tank (you know... the
>> one shot with the rust shotgun) to the shop that fixed my swirl tank
>> water neck.  I'm going to see if they can do anything with it, after all
>> it's not a pressure tank and I just can't bring myself to pay asking
>> price for a replacement.
>>
>> I'd like to thank everyone who continues to come up with great questions
>> and ideas.  Though many of them have already been covered, I appreciate
>> the fact you are thinking of so many possibilities.
>>
>> Thank you,
>> Asa Jay
>>
>> Asa Jay Laughton, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
>>
>> & Shelley Marie
>> Spokane, WA
>>
>> 1971 Mach I Mustang  [ASA JAY]
>> 1973 Pantera L 5533  [ASASCAT]
>>
>> ******************************
>> http://www.asajay.com
>> http://www.teampanteraracing.com
>>
>>
>>
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