[DeTomaso] Authentic versus non-authentic

Kirby Schrader kirby.schrader at gmail.com
Fri Oct 9 16:02:00 EDT 2009


Indeed. There is/was a very prolonged court case in Europe over just that issue.
Two people claiming they had the 'original' car. I don't have the
serial number of the car(s) in question handy, but I'm sure Mike Drew
could come up with that story in a flash....
:-)


On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 1:40 PM, Ken Green <kenn_green at yahoo.com> wrote:
>     Another GT40 issue that I think others have raised on the forum is that crashed original GT40s (I assume with real race credentials making them valuable) were sold in pieces, and later two or more cars were reconstructed claiming to be the original car because they included part of the original car.  I can imagine the arguments.
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> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Authentic versus non-authentic
> To: kenn_green at yahoo.com, detomaso at realbig.com, asajay at asajay.com
> Date: Friday, October 9, 2009, 11:35 AM
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> I too have run into some strange situations with guys presenting replicas in potentially misleading ways.That's why I will never place any kind of Ford badge or graphic on my GT40. I have a Superformance decal on the windscreen that hopefully helps avoid confusion. When I get the "what is it?" question, I never call it a Ford GT40, and follow with the "duplicate" explanation. On those occasions when it is obvious that the person is still not quite understanding, I tell them it's a 2008 car built in a factory in South Africa using blueprints from 1965. That seems to work.
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> What I saw that bothers me are people advertising "65 Cobras" and making it   appear that it is a 65, and thus not a replica, and it really is just a quirk in   the law that let them register it as a 65.  I think they are trying to con the   unsuspecting.     Ken    --- On Fri, 10/9/09, asajay at asajay.com <asajay at asajay.com> wrote:      From: asajay at asajay.com <asajay at asajay.com>  Subject: [DeTomaso] Authentic versus non-authentic  To: detomaso at realbig.com  Date: Friday, October 9, 2009, 8:24 AM      I think Mike Drew owns a great example.  He owns an original Pantera    that has been someone restored -and- modified but is an authentic    Pantera.  He also owns a Mustang that is a clone of (I think) a GT350.      He makes no bones about it being a clone and not an authentic, even    though it probably far exceeds the performance of an original.    In contrast, there used to be a guy here in Spokane that owned an AC    Cobra replicar.  It was
>  very nicely done but he continually passed it    off as an authentic original.  When challenged on that by folks who    knew better, and after looking at the VIN tags, this guy would usually    just -leave- the car show in a huff.  It was too bad really, he had a    nice car and probably could have won some awards even though it was    not an original Cobra.    In the kit car world there are those that are fantastic, and those    that are not.  The kit Pantera (or Fake Pantera as some have called    it) is an example of a poorly engineered project.  It
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> would take a lot    of work to make it look right even if it wasn't an authentic Pantera.     At least it's not being passed off as an authentic Pantera.  Though we    have a hard enough time sometimes reminding people the Pantera in it's    original was not and is not a -kit-.    On the other end of the spectrum we have things like the Kirham Cobra    or the Factory Five GT40s.  These ares such finely engineered replicas    that someone like me can't even afford one.  I'd be stuck with the old    fashioned volkswagon chassis with a fiberglass shell kit.  I would    dearly love to get into a replica GT40 and maybe someday I'll be able    to afford one, but I'm certainly not going to pass it off as an    original, unless it really is.    And in fact I think Bob makes my overall point, because I don't think    I could own that much of an original car that I couldn't touch it.     The Pantera is different, thankfully, but an original
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