[DeTomaso] Authentic versus non-authentic

[asajay at asajay.com]

Thank you for clearing that up Kirby.  I knew I'd get the companies  
mixed up or wrong.  :)

Asa Jay

Quoting Kirby Schrader <kirby.schrader at gmail.com>:

> Asa Jay,
>
> Factory Five doesn't make a GT40 to the best of my knowledge. They
> call it a GTM Supercar. From what I've read, they started to make a
> GT40 and then became embroiled in the licensing issue, decided it
> wasn't worth it and made the GTM instead..
>
> To me, if you are looking for a 'real' GT40, then the Superformance
> models are continuation serial numbers. The real deal, in my opinion.
> They made no attempt to 'fix' any issues with the cars as they were
> built other than A/C and Wilwood brakes (major changes).
>
> CAV, RCR, ERA and others have changed/improved on the original design
> in many ways. You do your research and make your choice.
>
> The market for GT40 'post historics' (as we were called at Road
> America) seems to be pretty soft... An on the road, new and complete
> SPF GT40 MkII was sold recently for $70K! That's a steal! In fact, it
> was in your neck of the woods. It now resides in Iowa.
>
> FWIW,
> Kirby
> http://web.mac.com/kirbyschrader
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 10:24 AM,  <asajay at asajay.com> wrote:
>> I think Mike Drew owns a great example.  He owns an original Pantera
>> that has been someone restored -and- modified but is an authentic
>> Pantera.  He also owns a Mustang that is a clone of (I think) a GT350.
>>  He makes no bones about it being a clone and not an authentic, even
>> though it probably far exceeds the performance of an original.
>>
>> In contrast, there used to be a guy here in Spokane that owned an AC
>> Cobra replicar.  It was very nicely done but he continually passed it
>> off as an authentic original.  When challenged on that by folks who
>> knew better, and after looking at the VIN tags, this guy would usually
>> just -leave- the car show in a huff.  It was too bad really, he had a
>> nice car and probably could have won some awards even though it was
>> not an original Cobra.
>>
>> In the kit car world there are those that are fantastic, and those
>> that are not.  The kit Pantera (or Fake Pantera as some have called
>> it) is an example of a poorly engineered project.  It would take a lot
>> of work to make it look right even if it wasn't an authentic Pantera.
>> At least it's not being passed off as an authentic Pantera.  Though we
>> have a hard enough time sometimes reminding people the Pantera in it's
>> original was not and is not a -kit-.
>>
>> On the other end of the spectrum we have things like the Kirham Cobra
>> or the Factory Five GT40s.  These ares such finely engineered replicas
>> that someone like me can't even afford one.  I'd be stuck with the old
>> fashioned volkswagon chassis with a fiberglass shell kit.  I would
>> dearly love to get into a replica GT40 and maybe someday I'll be able
>> to afford one, but I'm certainly not going to pass it off as an
>> original, unless it really is.
>>
>> And in fact I think Bob makes my overall point, because I don't think
>> I could own that much of an original car that I couldn't touch it.
>> The Pantera is different, thankfully, but an original GT40 or an
>> original AC Cobra?  I don't know I could enjoy it.
>>
>> Anyway.... just thought I'd pop in here for a minute.
>> Asa Jay
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