[DeTomaso] The Fake Pantera Lives????

[Asa Jay Laughton]

Um, Barry,

Are you referring to the photo -I- linked to which is of -my- car with 
no plate and a 1973 L model?  Asa, not Mike.

Asa Jay
<still not Mike>
:)

Asa Jay Laughton, MSgt, USAFR, Retired

& Shelley Marie
Spokane, WA

1971 Mach I Mustang  [ASA JAY]
1973 Pantera L 5533  [ASASCAT]
    
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http://www.asajay.com
http://www.teampanteraracing.com
  



Barry Seib wrote:
> Mike
> I am quite certain that your 1972 Pantera never had the plate that surrounds
> the VIN on the top of the footbox. Mine didn't either
> Pre-L Panteras did not have a "Body Service Number" on a plate in the engine
> bay or the metal tag that normally surrounds the VIN. I have been studying
> photos of 71-72 pre-L cars for originality for 8 years and I have not seen
> one with the "Body Service Number" or the plate that surrounds the VIN on
> the top of the footbox. I'm not sure at what point in the "L" production the
> change to add these items happened, but perhaps sometime later in 1973? I'm
> pretty sure that all the Ford program Panteras had felt in the front trunk
> and not carpet.
> Barry
>
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>
> http://www.teampanteraracing.com/index.php?option=com_g2bridge&view=gallery&
> Itemid=57&g2_itemId=335
>
> Um yea... I guess a link would help.
>
> Asa Jay Laughton, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
>
> & Shelley Marie
> Spokane, WA
>
> 1971 Mach I Mustang  [ASA JAY]
> 1973 Pantera L 5533  [ASASCAT]
>
> ******************************
> http://www.asajay.com
> http://www.teampanteraracing.com
>
>
>
>
> Asa Jay Laughton wrote:
>   
>> Here is an example of the VIN stamped in the metal of top of the pedal
>> box.  In -this- case, the metal tag that normally surrounds the VIN is
>> gone.  I don't know it was every there.  This is a photo of -my- car, a
>> 1973 L, I purchased it from the original owner and have all
>> documentation to say it's original.  It doesn't have the plate, I don't
>> know why.
>>
>> But I -do- know the plates exist on other cars and there is a cutout
>> that would normally expose the VIN like in my photo.
>>
>> Asa Jay
>>
>> Asa Jay Laughton, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
>>
>> & Shelley Marie
>> Spokane, WA
>>
>> 1971 Mach I Mustang  [ASA JAY]
>> 1973 Pantera L 5533  [ASASCAT]
>>
>> ******************************
>> http://www.asajay.com
>> http://www.teampanteraracing.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> MikeLDrew at aol.com wrote:
>>
>>     
>>> In a message dated 10/7/09 16 50 36, boyd411 at gmail.com writes:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>       
>>>> I checked all the Vin numbers on my car , and the body tags and no where
>>>> did
>>>> I find a  surround with the place for the Vin # cut out. . My car is a
>>>> 1973
>>>> L and may be different from the model you cited . It has the Vin on the
>>>> dash
>>>> in the corner of the windshield, a partial Vin on a Detomaso tag near
>>>>         
> the
>   
>>>> master cylinder and the full Vin on a plastic tag with additional info
>>>>         
> ion
>   
>>>> the drivers side door jamb. None of them had a cut out section with a
>>>> plate
>>>> over the Vin #.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>         
>>>>>> Your cutout plate, like mine, has probably been removed when somebody
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             
>>> reupholstered the front trunk.   There is only one real, official VIN on
>>>       
> the
>   
>>> car, and the others are just copies for convenience.   The official VIN
>>>       
> is
>   
>>> stamped on the top of the box that supports the brake vacuum booster, the
>>> carpet had a rectangular cutout there, and the the plate with the cutout
>>>       
> section
>   
>>> goes on top of that.   Do you have carpet on top of your brake booster
>>>       
> box,
>   
>>> with nothing else?   If so, peel it back and you'll find your car's
>>>       
> actual
>   
>>> VIN underneath--hopefully it matches the others!
>>>
>>> And your friendly Pantera vendors will gladly sell you a reproduction
>>> cutout plate, so that you can trim your carpet, and then you can affix it
>>>       
> in the
>   
>>> appropriate spot to return your car to its original appearance. :>)
>>>
>>> The 'partial VIN' on a tag next to the booster is almost assuredly your
>>> Body Service Number--a five-digit number, beginning with a "5", and
>>>       
> having no
>   
>>> relationship to the VIN whatsoever.   It's sort of a secondary VIN, a
>>>       
> number
>   
>>> used internally by Ford to identify the cars sequentially, because
>>>       
> although
>   
>>> the bodies were numbered sequentially at the Vignale factory in Turin, by
>>> the time they were trucked to Modena, and shuffled in and out of storage
>>>       
> lots
>   
>>> etc. before they ran down the final assembly line, the cars were no
>>>       
> longer
>   
>>> in numerical order.   The BSN allowed Ford to document changes, with 'all
>>> cars after BSN such-and-such now have this feature', something that was
>>> somewhat impossible to do with the VIN, unless the change was one that
>>>       
> took place
>   
>>> in Turin, and not Modena.
>>>
>>> Cheers!
>>>
>>> Mike
>>> _______________________________________________
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>
>   
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