[DeTomaso] The Fake Pantera Lives????

Asa Jay Laughton asajay at asajay.com
Wed Oct 7 22:48:35 EDT 2009


http://www.teampanteraracing.com/index.php?option=com_g2bridge&view=gallery&Itemid=57&g2_itemId=335

Um yea... I guess a link would help.

Asa Jay Laughton, MSgt, USAFR, Retired

& Shelley Marie
Spokane, WA

1971 Mach I Mustang  [ASA JAY]
1973 Pantera L 5533  [ASASCAT]
    
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Asa Jay Laughton wrote:
> Here is an example of the VIN stamped in the metal of top of the pedal 
> box.  In -this- case, the metal tag that normally surrounds the VIN is 
> gone.  I don't know it was every there.  This is a photo of -my- car, a 
> 1973 L, I purchased it from the original owner and have all 
> documentation to say it's original.  It doesn't have the plate, I don't 
> know why.
>
> But I -do- know the plates exist on other cars and there is a cutout 
> that would normally expose the VIN like in my photo.
>
> Asa Jay
>
> Asa Jay Laughton, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
>
> & Shelley Marie
> Spokane, WA
>
> 1971 Mach I Mustang  [ASA JAY]
> 1973 Pantera L 5533  [ASASCAT]
>     
> ******************************     
> http://www.asajay.com
> http://www.teampanteraracing.com
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>
>
>
> MikeLDrew at aol.com wrote:
>   
>> In a message dated 10/7/09 16 50 36, boyd411 at gmail.com writes:
>>
>>
>>   
>>     
>>> I checked all the Vin numbers on my car , and the body tags and no where 
>>> did
>>> I find a  surround with the place for the Vin # cut out. . My car is a 
>>> 1973
>>> L and may be different from the model you cited . It has the Vin on the 
>>> dash
>>> in the corner of the windshield, a partial Vin on a Detomaso tag near the
>>> master cylinder and the full Vin on a plastic tag with additional info ion
>>> the drivers side door jamb. None of them had a cut out section with a 
>>> plate
>>> over the Vin #.
>>>
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>> Your cutout plate, like mine, has probably been removed when somebody 
>>>>>         
>>>>>           
>> reupholstered the front trunk.   There is only one real, official VIN on the 
>> car, and the others are just copies for convenience.   The official VIN is 
>> stamped on the top of the box that supports the brake vacuum booster, the 
>> carpet had a rectangular cutout there, and the the plate with the cutout section 
>> goes on top of that.   Do you have carpet on top of your brake booster box, 
>> with nothing else?   If so, peel it back and you'll find your car's actual 
>> VIN underneath--hopefully it matches the others!
>>
>> And your friendly Pantera vendors will gladly sell you a reproduction 
>> cutout plate, so that you can trim your carpet, and then you can affix it in the 
>> appropriate spot to return your car to its original appearance. :>)
>>
>> The 'partial VIN' on a tag next to the booster is almost assuredly your 
>> Body Service Number--a five-digit number, beginning with a "5", and having no 
>> relationship to the VIN whatsoever.   It's sort of a secondary VIN, a number 
>> used internally by Ford to identify the cars sequentially, because although 
>> the bodies were numbered sequentially at the Vignale factory in Turin, by 
>> the time they were trucked to Modena, and shuffled in and out of storage lots 
>> etc. before they ran down the final assembly line, the cars were no longer 
>> in numerical order.   The BSN allowed Ford to document changes, with 'all 
>> cars after BSN such-and-such now have this feature', something that was 
>> somewhat impossible to do with the VIN, unless the change was one that took place 
>> in Turin, and not Modena.
>>
>> Cheers!
>>
>> Mike
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