[DeTomaso] lower pantera shafts

bill gaino gaino at earthlink.net
Sat Oct 3 13:45:24 EDT 2009


I did as Mike suggested only I used a portaband and it went well, no damage execpt the cup and O ring. The shaft ends tapped out of the arm easily.

-----Original Message-----
>From: bill gaino <gaino at earthlink.net>
>Sent: Oct 3, 2009 8:17 AM
>To: Charles McCall <charlesmccall at gmail.com>, MikeLDrew at aol.com, detomaso at realbig.com
>Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] lower pantera shafts
>
>Good point about the nipples. I wondered what they were for. We know they are on the lowest part, so I can cut from the top down. I soaked the driver side all nite and will try to press the low shaft again. We cut through one of the top A arm bushings and bolt on the pass side. I used a cut off wheel on a die grinder and cut directly through the rubber portion of the bushing. Smelled like a burnout. The wify came down asking about the rubber-penetrating fluid smell. Two more to go on the pass. The driver upper arm is built and looks good. Big day today. Bill
>
>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Charles McCall <charlesmccall at gmail.com>
>>Sent: Oct 3, 2009 4:52 AM
>>To: MikeLDrew at aol.com, gaino at earthlink.net, detomaso at realbig.com
>>Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] lower pantera shafts
>>
>>I had a similar problem on my car, and there are others on the List who have
>>suffered the same. I understand that it is a fairly common occurance, and
>>bears looking at on all cars. 
>>
>>Mike Drew is mostly right in what he writes, but based on my experience is
>>wildly optimistic that a hacksaw will do anything besides p*ss you off. At
>>least that's all it did in my case ;)  I replaced the shafts while mounted
>>on my car, but I went through numerous blades, numerous die grinding disks,
>>and an extensive library of profanity before getting mine apart. 
>>
>>They are correct in that you need to cut it apart. One thing not mentioned -
>>you need to leave a little gap while cutting between the upright since it
>>has two nipples that are an integral part of the upright that keep the
>>thrust washer from rotating. Cut too close to the upright and you'll cut off
>>these nipples
>>
>>Charles McCall
>>1985 DeTomaso Pantera GT5-S #9375
>>"Raising Pantera Awareness Across Europe"
>>http://www.poca.com/index.php/gallery/?g2_itemId=2323
>>
>>-----Mensaje original-----
>>De: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com] En
>>nombre de MikeLDrew at aol.com
>>Enviado el: sábado, 03 de octubre de 2009 2:40
>>Para: gaino at earthlink.net; MikeLDrew at aol.com; detomaso at realbig.com
>>Asunto: Re: [DeTomaso] lower pantera shafts
>>
>>
>>In a message dated 10/2/09 11 38 48, gaino at earthlink.net writes:
>>
>>
>>> Mike,Listers, I'm in trouble. I had a grinding noise and noticed my RR 
>>> inboard bearing was missing a few balls. Lucky for me I have a set of
>>rebuilt 
>>> uprights and new lower shafts, seals O rings, the works, including ball 
>>> joints. I got the right side off and the upper arm built. I bent my press 
>>> trying to push the lower shaft out. It is stuck in the inner sleeve. Can I
>>cut 
>>> between the lower arm and the upright with a sawzall? I just need my lower
>>
>>> arm back but I don't want to harm a good upright either. The exiting lower
>>
>>> shaft means nothing to me now. Any suggestions. 
>>> 
>>
>>I had *exactly* the same problem when I first bought my car, coincidentally 
>>20 years ago this month.   Yes, there is no other choice other than to 
>>CAREFULLY saw in between the A-arm and the upright.   Consider the cups on
>>the 
>>ends of the upright sacrificial.   You don't want to saw into the A-arm and 
>>you don't want to saw into the upright.   So cut/grind away as much of the 
>>cups as you can.   This will leave the remaining part of the cup, 
>>looking/acting like a washer, in between the A-arm and the upright.   Then
>>very 
>>carefully cut straight down through the cup, and through the shaft.   This
>>requires 
>>precision, and a hand hacksaw is a better tool, at least until you get the 
>>thing started.
>>
>>It will take a long, LONG time and probably eat more than one saw blade.
>>
>>When I was all done, the upright separated from the A-arm, leaving two 
>>stubs of the lower shaft stuck in the ends of the A-arm.   Jack DeRyke bent
>>his 
>>press trying to get THOSE out, and eventually the A-arm broke. :<(
>>
>>Lots of lubrication, heat, cold, profanity, percussion--all will be called 
>>for in equal measures.
>>
>>Good luck and let us know how it turns out!
>>
>>Mike
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