[DeTomaso] Pantera A/C compressor bracket

Kirby Schrader kirby.schrader at gmail.com
Sat Nov 28 10:06:48 EST 2009 

My 55gpm remote Meziere is working very well, so far.


On 28 Nov 2009, at 7:33 AM, Thomas Tornblom wrote:

> Tomas Gunnarsson skrev:
>> If you're talking about Stefan J's pump it was a Meziere AFAIK. I don't know what the rated capacity was.
> 
> Yes, it was Stefan, but I also received comments from others that had 
> seen cars having cooling problems due to the electric pump they were using.
> 
>> 
>> Tomas
> 
> Thomas
> 
>> 
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Thomas Tornblom" <Thomas.Tornblom at hax.se>
>> To: "Julian Kift" <julian_kift at hotmail.com>
>> Cc: <rkmosier at aol.com>; <fnoonan at gmail.com>; "De Tomaso List" <detomaso at realbig.com>; <kenn_green at yahoo.com>; <sobill at aol.com>; <thomas.tornblom at hax.se>
>> Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2009 12:55 AM
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera A/C compressor bracket
>> 
>> 
>>> Julian Kift skrev:
>>>> Yes, it would be good to know/document what brand pump and what went wrong.
>>>> 
>>>> I know people will argue that that there are far fewer electric pumps on 
>>>> Pantera's out there, but I heard of many a mechanical water pump failing 
>>>> and that's the first electric.
>>> It didn´t fail, it just wasn´t up to the task on the autobahn, and I 
>>> don´t know what brand/model it was.
>>> 
>>> I also have no idea about the other failures I received private mails 
>>> for, but that too appears to have been capacity problems. Working fine 
>>> in daily traffic, but insufficient at high speed.
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> There's a parallel discussion on the PI forum regarding an electric 
>>>> water pump and flat firewall. The remote electric pump in that 
>>>> application was a) installed in 2000 and still going and b) set up with 
>>>> shut off valves and could be changed out on the side of the road if 
>>>> necessary. Would you change a mechanical pump at the side of the road?
>>>> 
>>>> Discussion can be found here;
>>>> http://pantera.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/5650045562/m/511108853/p/1
>>>> 
>>>> Julian
>>> Thomas
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2009 14:43:46 -0800
>>>> From: davel at emspace.com
>>>> To: Thomas.Tornblom at hax.se
>>>> CC: julian_kift at hotmail.com; rkmosier at aol.com; fnoonan at gmail.com; 
>>>> detomaso at realbig.com; kenn_green at yahoo.com; sobill at aol.com
>>>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera A/C compressor bracket
>>>> 
>>>> Do you happen to know the make & model that failed Thomas?
>>>> dave
>>>> 
>>>> Thomas Tornblom wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>    Julian Kift skrev:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>        Thomas,
>>>> 
>>>>        Why not just install a remote electric water pump?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>    I´m not convinced about the reliability and capacity of that. I received 
>>>>    some private comments to this effect when there was talk about this a 
>>>>    few weeks ago. A Swedish Pantera using an electric pump without problems 
>>>>    in Sweden ran into problems on a trip through Germany and had to go back 
>>>>    to the mechanical pump.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>        Julian
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>    Thomas
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2009 22:30:20 +0100
>>>>> From: Thomas.Tornblom at Hax.SE <mailto:Thomas.Tornblom at Hax.SE>
>>>>> To: kenn_green at yahoo.com <mailto:kenn_green at yahoo.com>
>>>>> CC: RKMosier at aol.com <mailto:RKMosier at aol.com>; SOBill at aol.com <mailto:SOBill at aol.com>; fnoonan at gmail.com <mailto:fnoonan at gmail.com>; 
>>>>        detomaso at realbig.com <mailto:detomaso at realbig.com>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera A/C compressor bracket
>>>>> 
>>>>> Does anyone know where one can get shorter waterpump bearings?
>>>>> 
>>>>> I've been thinking about the possibility to drasticly shorten a pump
>>>>> so that one can eliminate the hump.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I tried mailing Edelbrock, but they don't do support over email and I
>>>>> haven't mustered the energy to call them.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Thomas
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 27 nov 2009 kl. 22.01 skrev Ken Green <kenn_green at yahoo.com> <mailto:kenn_green at yahoo.com>:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> I think IPS also sells a mount to move the alternator for a flatter
>>>>>> fire wall.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> http://www.ipsco.org/Pantera%20Parts/ac%20alt%20bracket.htm
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Ken
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> --- On Fri, 11/27/09, SOBill at aol.com <mailto:SOBill at aol.com> <SOBill at aol.com> <mailto:SOBill at aol.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> From: SOBill at aol.com <mailto:SOBill at aol.com> <SOBill at aol.com> <mailto:SOBill at aol.com>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera A/C compressor bracket
>>>>>> To: fnoonan at gmail.com <mailto:fnoonan at gmail.com>, detomaso at realbig.com <mailto:detomaso at realbig.com>, RKMosier at aol.com <mailto:RKMosier at aol.com>
>>>>>> Date: Friday, November 27, 2009, 12:35 PM
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Is this what you're looking for?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> _http://www.ipsco.org/Pantera%20Parts/ac%20mount%20bracket.htm_
>>>>>> (http://www.ipsco.org/Pantera%20Parts/ac%20mount%20bracket.htm)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I believe it adapts the rotary pump to the OEM York mounting bracket.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> SOBill Taylor
>>>>>> sobill at aol.com <mailto:sobill at aol.com>
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> In a message dated 11/27/2009 10:15:27 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,
>>>>>> fnoonan at gmail.com <mailto:fnoonan at gmail.com> writes:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>> I was wondering if anybody has photos of this bracket, or knows
>>>>>> where I could info on it?
>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Air Conditioning & Heating
>>>>>> Rotary Compressor Upgrade
>>>>>> Sanden Rotary Compressor
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> From: SOBill at aol.com <mailto:SOBill at aol.com>
>>>>>> Date: Tue, 13 May 2003 19:57:36 EDT
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Sanden A/Cs
>>>>>> To: detomaso at realbig.com <mailto:detomaso at realbig.com>
>>>>>> From the Pantera Database:
>>>>>> Sanden SD-508 R-12 Rotary AC Compressor is sold by Pantera East,
>>>>>> also sold
>>>>>> is a machined aluminum
>>>>>> adapter bracket to replace a York.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> ____________________________________
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> From: NSakulen at aol.com <mailto:NSakulen at aol.com>
>>>>>> Date: Tue, 13 May 2003 22:15:30 EDT
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] a/c
>>>>>> To: RKMosier at aol.com <mailto:RKMosier at aol.com>, _detomaso at realbig.com_ 
>>>>        (mailto:detomaso at realbig.com
>>>>>> )
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> The bracket is from Pantera Performance Center in Colorado. The
>>>>>> Compressor
>>>>>> is a Sanden 508 type. I
>>>>>> got one recommended by an A/C shop I deal with. It’s made by ZEXEL
>>>>>> in
>>>>>> Japan P/N 500630-7830.
>>>>>> Distributed by International Components Engineering. I.C.E. P/N 
>>>>        2521152
>>>>>> .
>>>>>> The alternator mounts to the
>>>>>> right of the compressor and drives off the inside groove on the
>>>>>> compressor. I have some pictures. I don’t
>>>>>> have a web site, but I can send them if you email me.
>>>>>> Nick
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
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