[DeTomaso] Pantera A/C compressor bracket
Steve Hawkins
shawkins777 at comcast.net
Sat Nov 28 08:43:36 EST 2009
Kirby is using a remote pump rated at 55gpm on his GT40. He has had his on
the track and didn't have any cooling issues that I'm aware of.
Steve
-----Original Message-----
From: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com] On
Behalf Of Thomas Tornblom
Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2009 7:34 AM
To: Tomas Gunnarsson
Cc: De Tomaso List
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera A/C compressor bracket
Tomas Gunnarsson skrev:
> If you're talking about Stefan J's pump it was a Meziere AFAIK. I
> don't know what the rated capacity was.
Yes, it was Stefan, but I also received comments from others that had
seen cars having cooling problems due to the electric pump they were using.
>
> Tomas
Thomas
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Thomas Tornblom" <Thomas.Tornblom at hax.se>
> To: "Julian Kift" <julian_kift at hotmail.com>
> Cc: <rkmosier at aol.com>; <fnoonan at gmail.com>; "De Tomaso List"
<detomaso at realbig.com>; <kenn_green at yahoo.com>; <sobill at aol.com>;
<thomas.tornblom at hax.se>
> Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2009 12:55 AM
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera A/C compressor bracket
>
>
>> Julian Kift skrev:
>>> Yes, it would be good to know/document what brand pump and what went
>>> wrong.
>>>
>>> I know people will argue that that there are far fewer electric
>>> pumps on
>>> Pantera's out there, but I heard of many a mechanical water pump failing
>>> and that's the first electric.
>> It didn´t fail, it just wasn´t up to the task on the autobahn, and I
>> don´t know what brand/model it was.
>>
>> I also have no idea about the other failures I received private mails
>> for, but that too appears to have been capacity problems. Working fine
>> in daily traffic, but insufficient at high speed.
>>
>>>
>>> There's a parallel discussion on the PI forum regarding an electric
>>> water pump and flat firewall. The remote electric pump in that
>>> application was a) installed in 2000 and still going and b) set up with
>>> shut off valves and could be changed out on the side of the road if
>>> necessary. Would you change a mechanical pump at the side of the road?
>>>
>>> Discussion can be found here;
>>> http://pantera.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/5650045562/m/511108853/
>>> p/1
>>>
>>> Julian
>> Thomas
>>
>>>
>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> ----
>>> Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2009 14:43:46 -0800
>>> From: davel at emspace.com
>>> To: Thomas.Tornblom at hax.se
>>> CC: julian_kift at hotmail.com; rkmosier at aol.com; fnoonan at gmail.com;
>>> detomaso at realbig.com; kenn_green at yahoo.com; sobill at aol.com
>>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera A/C compressor bracket
>>>
>>> Do you happen to know the make & model that failed Thomas? dave
>>>
>>> Thomas Tornblom wrote:
>>>
>>> Julian Kift skrev:
>>>
>>>
>>> Thomas,
>>>
>>> Why not just install a remote electric water pump?
>>>
>>>
>>> I´m not convinced about the reliability and capacity of that. I
received
>>> some private comments to this effect when there was talk about this
a
>>> few weeks ago. A Swedish Pantera using an electric pump without
problems
>>> in Sweden ran into problems on a trip through Germany and had to go
back
>>> to the mechanical pump.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Julian
>>>
>>>
>>> Thomas
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> > Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2009 22:30:20 +0100
>>> > From: Thomas.Tornblom at Hax.SE <mailto:Thomas.Tornblom at Hax.SE>
>>> > To: kenn_green at yahoo.com <mailto:kenn_green at yahoo.com>
>>> > CC: RKMosier at aol.com <mailto:RKMosier at aol.com>;
SOBill at aol.com <mailto:SOBill at aol.com>; fnoonan at gmail.com
<mailto:fnoonan at gmail.com>;
>>> detomaso at realbig.com <mailto:detomaso at realbig.com>
>>> > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera A/C compressor bracket
>>> >
>>> > Does anyone know where one can get shorter waterpump
bearings?
>>> >
>>> > I've been thinking about the possibility to drasticly shorten
a pump
>>> > so that one can eliminate the hump.
>>> >
>>> > I tried mailing Edelbrock, but they don't do support over
email and I
>>> > haven't mustered the energy to call them.
>>> >
>>> > Cheers,
>>> > Thomas
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > 27 nov 2009 kl. 22.01 skrev Ken Green <kenn_green at yahoo.com>
<mailto:kenn_green at yahoo.com>:
>>> >
>>> > > I think IPS also sells a mount to move the alternator for a
flatter
>>> > > fire wall.
>>> > >
>>> > > http://www.ipsco.org/Pantera%20Parts/ac%20alt%20bracket.htm
>>> > >
>>> > > Ken
>>> > >
>>> > > --- On Fri, 11/27/09, SOBill at aol.com
<mailto:SOBill at aol.com> <SOBill at aol.com> <mailto:SOBill at aol.com> wrote:
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > > From: SOBill at aol.com <mailto:SOBill at aol.com>
<SOBill at aol.com> <mailto:SOBill at aol.com>
>>> > > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera A/C compressor bracket
>>> > > To: fnoonan at gmail.com <mailto:fnoonan at gmail.com>,
detomaso at realbig.com <mailto:detomaso at realbig.com>, RKMosier at aol.com
<mailto:RKMosier at aol.com>
>>> > > Date: Friday, November 27, 2009, 12:35 PM
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > > Is this what you're looking for?
>>> > >
>>> > >
_http://www.ipsco.org/Pantera%20Parts/ac%20mount%20bracket.htm_
>>> > >
(http://www.ipsco.org/Pantera%20Parts/ac%20mount%20bracket.htm)
>>> > >
>>> > > I believe it adapts the rotary pump to the OEM York
mounting bracket.
>>> > >
>>> > > SOBill Taylor
>>> > > sobill at aol.com <mailto:sobill at aol.com>
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > > In a message dated 11/27/2009 10:15:27 A.M. Pacific
Standard Time,
>>> > > fnoonan at gmail.com <mailto:fnoonan at gmail.com> writes:
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > > Hello,
>>> > > I was wondering if anybody has photos of this bracket, or
knows
>>> > > where I could info on it?
>>> > > Thanks!
>>> > >
>>> > > Air Conditioning & Heating
>>> > > Rotary Compressor Upgrade
>>> > > Sanden Rotary Compressor
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > > From: SOBill at aol.com <mailto:SOBill at aol.com>
>>> > > Date: Tue, 13 May 2003 19:57:36 EDT
>>> > > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Sanden A/Cs
>>> > > To: detomaso at realbig.com <mailto:detomaso at realbig.com>
>>> > > From the Pantera Database:
>>> > > Sanden SD-508 R-12 Rotary AC Compressor is sold by Pantera
East,
>>> > > also sold
>>> > > is a machined aluminum
>>> > > adapter bracket to replace a York.
>>> > >
>>> > > ____________________________________
>>> > >
>>> > > From: NSakulen at aol.com <mailto:NSakulen at aol.com>
>>> > > Date: Tue, 13 May 2003 22:15:30 EDT
>>> > > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] a/c
>>> > > To: RKMosier at aol.com <mailto:RKMosier at aol.com>,
_detomaso at realbig.com_
>>> (mailto:detomaso at realbig.com
>>> > > )
>>> > >
>>> > > The bracket is from Pantera Performance Center in Colorado.
The
>>> > > Compressor
>>> > > is a Sanden 508 type. I
>>> > > got one recommended by an A/C shop I deal with. It’s made
by ZEXEL
>>> > > in
>>> > > Japan P/N 500630-7830.
>>> > > Distributed by International Components Engineering. I.C.E.
P/N
>>> 2521152
>>> > > .
>>> > > The alternator mounts to the
>>> > > right of the compressor and drives off the inside groove on
the
>>> > > compressor. I have some pictures. I don’t
>>> > > have a web site, but I can send them if you email me.
>>> > > Nick
>>> > > _______________________________________________
>>> > >
>>>
>>>
>>>
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