[DeTomaso] Pantera A/C compressor bracket

Tomas Gunnarsson guson at home.se
Sat Nov 28 04:40:29 EST 2009


If you're talking about Stefan J's pump it was a Meziere AFAIK. I don't know what the rated capacity was.

Tomas

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Thomas Tornblom" <Thomas.Tornblom at hax.se>
To: "Julian Kift" <julian_kift at hotmail.com>
Cc: <rkmosier at aol.com>; <fnoonan at gmail.com>; "De Tomaso List" <detomaso at realbig.com>; <kenn_green at yahoo.com>; <sobill at aol.com>; <thomas.tornblom at hax.se>
Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2009 12:55 AM
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera A/C compressor bracket


> Julian Kift skrev:
>> Yes, it would be good to know/document what brand pump and what went wrong.
>>  
>> I know people will argue that that there are far fewer electric pumps on 
>> Pantera's out there, but I heard of many a mechanical water pump failing 
>> and that's the first electric.
> 
> It didn´t fail, it just wasn´t up to the task on the autobahn, and I 
> don´t know what brand/model it was.
> 
> I also have no idea about the other failures I received private mails 
> for, but that too appears to have been capacity problems. Working fine 
> in daily traffic, but insufficient at high speed.
> 
>>  
>> There's a parallel discussion on the PI forum regarding an electric 
>> water pump and flat firewall. The remote electric pump in that 
>> application was a) installed in 2000 and still going and b) set up with 
>> shut off valves and could be changed out on the side of the road if 
>> necessary. Would you change a mechanical pump at the side of the road?
>>  
>> Discussion can be found here;
>> http://pantera.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/5650045562/m/511108853/p/1
>>  
>> Julian
> 
> Thomas
> 
>>  
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2009 14:43:46 -0800
>> From: davel at emspace.com
>> To: Thomas.Tornblom at hax.se
>> CC: julian_kift at hotmail.com; rkmosier at aol.com; fnoonan at gmail.com; 
>> detomaso at realbig.com; kenn_green at yahoo.com; sobill at aol.com
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera A/C compressor bracket
>> 
>> Do you happen to know the make & model that failed Thomas?
>> dave
>> 
>> Thomas Tornblom wrote:
>> 
>>     Julian Kift skrev:
>>       
>> 
>>         Thomas,
>>          
>>         Why not just install a remote electric water pump?
>>             
>> 
>>     I´m not convinced about the reliability and capacity of that. I received 
>>     some private comments to this effect when there was talk about this a 
>>     few weeks ago. A Swedish Pantera using an electric pump without problems 
>>     in Sweden ran into problems on a trip through Germany and had to go back 
>>     to the mechanical pump.
>> 
>>       
>> 
>>          
>>         Julian
>>             
>> 
>>     Thomas
>> 
>>       
>> 
>>          
>>          > Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2009 22:30:20 +0100
>>          > From: Thomas.Tornblom at Hax.SE <mailto:Thomas.Tornblom at Hax.SE>
>>          > To: kenn_green at yahoo.com <mailto:kenn_green at yahoo.com>
>>          > CC: RKMosier at aol.com <mailto:RKMosier at aol.com>; SOBill at aol.com <mailto:SOBill at aol.com>; fnoonan at gmail.com <mailto:fnoonan at gmail.com>; 
>>         detomaso at realbig.com <mailto:detomaso at realbig.com>
>>          > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera A/C compressor bracket
>>          >
>>          > Does anyone know where one can get shorter waterpump bearings?
>>          >
>>          > I've been thinking about the possibility to drasticly shorten a pump
>>          > so that one can eliminate the hump.
>>          >
>>          > I tried mailing Edelbrock, but they don't do support over email and I
>>          > haven't mustered the energy to call them.
>>          >
>>          > Cheers,
>>          > Thomas
>>          >
>>          >
>>          >
>>          > 27 nov 2009 kl. 22.01 skrev Ken Green <kenn_green at yahoo.com> <mailto:kenn_green at yahoo.com>:
>>          >
>>          > > I think IPS also sells a mount to move the alternator for a flatter
>>          > > fire wall.
>>          > >
>>          > > http://www.ipsco.org/Pantera%20Parts/ac%20alt%20bracket.htm
>>          > >
>>          > > Ken
>>          > >
>>          > > --- On Fri, 11/27/09, SOBill at aol.com <mailto:SOBill at aol.com> <SOBill at aol.com> <mailto:SOBill at aol.com> wrote:
>>          > >
>>          > >
>>          > > From: SOBill at aol.com <mailto:SOBill at aol.com> <SOBill at aol.com> <mailto:SOBill at aol.com>
>>          > > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera A/C compressor bracket
>>          > > To: fnoonan at gmail.com <mailto:fnoonan at gmail.com>, detomaso at realbig.com <mailto:detomaso at realbig.com>, RKMosier at aol.com <mailto:RKMosier at aol.com>
>>          > > Date: Friday, November 27, 2009, 12:35 PM
>>          > >
>>          > >
>>          > > Is this what you're looking for?
>>          > >
>>          > > _http://www.ipsco.org/Pantera%20Parts/ac%20mount%20bracket.htm_
>>          > > (http://www.ipsco.org/Pantera%20Parts/ac%20mount%20bracket.htm)
>>          > >
>>          > > I believe it adapts the rotary pump to the OEM York mounting bracket.
>>          > >
>>          > > SOBill Taylor
>>          > > sobill at aol.com <mailto:sobill at aol.com>
>>          > >
>>          > >
>>          > > In a message dated 11/27/2009 10:15:27 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,
>>          > > fnoonan at gmail.com <mailto:fnoonan at gmail.com> writes:
>>          > >
>>          > >
>>          > > Hello,
>>          > > I was wondering if anybody has photos of this bracket, or knows
>>          > > where I could info on it?
>>          > > Thanks!
>>          > >
>>          > > Air Conditioning & Heating
>>          > > Rotary Compressor Upgrade
>>          > > Sanden Rotary Compressor
>>          > >
>>          > >
>>          > >
>>          > >
>>          > > From: SOBill at aol.com <mailto:SOBill at aol.com>
>>          > > Date: Tue, 13 May 2003 19:57:36 EDT
>>          > > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Sanden A/Cs
>>          > > To: detomaso at realbig.com <mailto:detomaso at realbig.com>
>>          > > From the Pantera Database:
>>          > > Sanden SD-508 R-12 Rotary AC Compressor is sold by Pantera East,
>>          > > also sold
>>          > > is a machined aluminum
>>          > > adapter bracket to replace a York.
>>          > >
>>          > > ____________________________________
>>          > >
>>          > > From: NSakulen at aol.com <mailto:NSakulen at aol.com>
>>          > > Date: Tue, 13 May 2003 22:15:30 EDT
>>          > > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] a/c
>>          > > To: RKMosier at aol.com <mailto:RKMosier at aol.com>, _detomaso at realbig.com_ 
>>         (mailto:detomaso at realbig.com
>>          > > )
>>          > >
>>          > > The bracket is from Pantera Performance Center in Colorado. The
>>          > > Compressor
>>          > > is a Sanden 508 type. I
>>          > > got one recommended by an A/C shop I deal with. It’s made by ZEXEL
>>          > > in
>>          > > Japan P/N 500630-7830.
>>          > > Distributed by International Components Engineering. I.C.E. P/N 
>>         2521152
>>          > > .
>>          > > The alternator mounts to the
>>          > > right of the compressor and drives off the inside groove on the
>>          > > compressor. I have some pictures. I don’t
>>          > > have a web site, but I can send them if you email me.
>>          > > Nick
>>          > > _______________________________________________
>>          > >
>>             
>> 
>> 
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