[DeTomaso] Pantera A/C compressor bracket

Thomas Tornblom Thomas.Tornblom at hax.se
Fri Nov 27 18:55:24 EST 2009


Julian Kift skrev:
> Yes, it would be good to know/document what brand pump and what went wrong.
>  
> I know people will argue that that there are far fewer electric pumps on 
> Pantera's out there, but I heard of many a mechanical water pump failing 
> and that's the first electric.

It didn´t fail, it just wasn´t up to the task on the autobahn, and I 
don´t know what brand/model it was.

I also have no idea about the other failures I received private mails 
for, but that too appears to have been capacity problems. Working fine 
in daily traffic, but insufficient at high speed.

>  
> There's a parallel discussion on the PI forum regarding an electric 
> water pump and flat firewall. The remote electric pump in that 
> application was a) installed in 2000 and still going and b) set up with 
> shut off valves and could be changed out on the side of the road if 
> necessary. Would you change a mechanical pump at the side of the road?
>  
> Discussion can be found here;
> http://pantera.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/5650045562/m/511108853/p/1
>  
> Julian

Thomas

>  
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2009 14:43:46 -0800
> From: davel at emspace.com
> To: Thomas.Tornblom at hax.se
> CC: julian_kift at hotmail.com; rkmosier at aol.com; fnoonan at gmail.com; 
> detomaso at realbig.com; kenn_green at yahoo.com; sobill at aol.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera A/C compressor bracket
> 
> Do you happen to know the make & model that failed Thomas?
> dave
> 
> Thomas Tornblom wrote:
> 
>     Julian Kift skrev:
>       
> 
>         Thomas,
>          
>         Why not just install a remote electric water pump?
>             
> 
>     I´m not convinced about the reliability and capacity of that. I received 
>     some private comments to this effect when there was talk about this a 
>     few weeks ago. A Swedish Pantera using an electric pump without problems 
>     in Sweden ran into problems on a trip through Germany and had to go back 
>     to the mechanical pump.
> 
>       
> 
>          
>         Julian
>             
> 
>     Thomas
> 
>       
> 
>          
>          > Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2009 22:30:20 +0100
>          > From: Thomas.Tornblom at Hax.SE <mailto:Thomas.Tornblom at Hax.SE>
>          > To: kenn_green at yahoo.com <mailto:kenn_green at yahoo.com>
>          > CC: RKMosier at aol.com <mailto:RKMosier at aol.com>; SOBill at aol.com <mailto:SOBill at aol.com>; fnoonan at gmail.com <mailto:fnoonan at gmail.com>; 
>         detomaso at realbig.com <mailto:detomaso at realbig.com>
>          > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera A/C compressor bracket
>          >
>          > Does anyone know where one can get shorter waterpump bearings?
>          >
>          > I've been thinking about the possibility to drasticly shorten a pump
>          > so that one can eliminate the hump.
>          >
>          > I tried mailing Edelbrock, but they don't do support over email and I
>          > haven't mustered the energy to call them.
>          >
>          > Cheers,
>          > Thomas
>          >
>          >
>          >
>          > 27 nov 2009 kl. 22.01 skrev Ken Green <kenn_green at yahoo.com> <mailto:kenn_green at yahoo.com>:
>          >
>          > > I think IPS also sells a mount to move the alternator for a flatter
>          > > fire wall.
>          > >
>          > > http://www.ipsco.org/Pantera%20Parts/ac%20alt%20bracket.htm
>          > >
>          > > Ken
>          > >
>          > > --- On Fri, 11/27/09, SOBill at aol.com <mailto:SOBill at aol.com> <SOBill at aol.com> <mailto:SOBill at aol.com> wrote:
>          > >
>          > >
>          > > From: SOBill at aol.com <mailto:SOBill at aol.com> <SOBill at aol.com> <mailto:SOBill at aol.com>
>          > > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera A/C compressor bracket
>          > > To: fnoonan at gmail.com <mailto:fnoonan at gmail.com>, detomaso at realbig.com <mailto:detomaso at realbig.com>, RKMosier at aol.com <mailto:RKMosier at aol.com>
>          > > Date: Friday, November 27, 2009, 12:35 PM
>          > >
>          > >
>          > > Is this what you're looking for?
>          > >
>          > > _http://www.ipsco.org/Pantera%20Parts/ac%20mount%20bracket.htm_
>          > > (http://www.ipsco.org/Pantera%20Parts/ac%20mount%20bracket.htm)
>          > >
>          > > I believe it adapts the rotary pump to the OEM York mounting bracket.
>          > >
>          > > SOBill Taylor
>          > > sobill at aol.com <mailto:sobill at aol.com>
>          > >
>          > >
>          > > In a message dated 11/27/2009 10:15:27 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,
>          > > fnoonan at gmail.com <mailto:fnoonan at gmail.com> writes:
>          > >
>          > >
>          > > Hello,
>          > > I was wondering if anybody has photos of this bracket, or knows
>          > > where I could info on it?
>          > > Thanks!
>          > >
>          > > Air Conditioning & Heating
>          > > Rotary Compressor Upgrade
>          > > Sanden Rotary Compressor
>          > >
>          > >
>          > >
>          > >
>          > > From: SOBill at aol.com <mailto:SOBill at aol.com>
>          > > Date: Tue, 13 May 2003 19:57:36 EDT
>          > > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Sanden A/Cs
>          > > To: detomaso at realbig.com <mailto:detomaso at realbig.com>
>          > > From the Pantera Database:
>          > > Sanden SD-508 R-12 Rotary AC Compressor is sold by Pantera East,
>          > > also sold
>          > > is a machined aluminum
>          > > adapter bracket to replace a York.
>          > >
>          > > ____________________________________
>          > >
>          > > From: NSakulen at aol.com <mailto:NSakulen at aol.com>
>          > > Date: Tue, 13 May 2003 22:15:30 EDT
>          > > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] a/c
>          > > To: RKMosier at aol.com <mailto:RKMosier at aol.com>, _detomaso at realbig.com_ 
>         (mailto:detomaso at realbig.com
>          > > )
>          > >
>          > > The bracket is from Pantera Performance Center in Colorado. The
>          > > Compressor
>          > > is a Sanden 508 type. I
>          > > got one recommended by an A/C shop I deal with. It’s made by ZEXEL
>          > > in
>          > > Japan P/N 500630-7830.
>          > > Distributed by International Components Engineering. I.C.E. P/N 
>         2521152
>          > > .
>          > > The alternator mounts to the
>          > > right of the compressor and drives off the inside groove on the
>          > > compressor. I have some pictures. I don’t
>          > > have a web site, but I can send them if you email me.
>          > > Nick
>          > > _______________________________________________
>          > >
>             
> 
> 
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