[DeTomaso] Very little Pantera content

Thu Nov 19 12:04:46 EST 2009

Funny thing is I agree with your counterpoints too. They further illustrate that 'each is protecting their own' rather than looking for a responsible, long term sustainable, win-win solution. Until that mentality stops, the deterioration of society will continue, just the money and power will shift within it.

Peter Kovacs
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From: "michael at michaelshortt.com" <michaelsavga at gmail.com>
To: Peter Kovacs <peter-kovacs at sbcglobal.net>
Cc: Matt Bradley <apollo73 at yahoo.com>; detomaso at realbig.com
Sent: Thu, November 19, 2009 8:55:17 AM
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Very little Pantera content

Peter,  see below

On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 10:20 AM, Peter Kovacs <peter-kovacs at sbcglobal.net> wrote:

Even prior to that our society was on a bad path. 

I agree up to a point.

Disposable diapers,

I never had kids so I can't comment fairly, I will say that when i was 10 that my mother had just given birth to my little sister who did use cloth diapers and I have been around lots of babies
since that time and can attest that I disposable diapers make life easier and create jobs.  Living in the Southeast, Savannah specifically, we are the home of the Charles S. Herty Foundation, Charles S. Herty was the man who fathered the "slash pine industry and gave birth to the fast growing trees that make paper, TP, diapers, etc.  Thereby saving old growth forests, etc.  That is why we have millions of acres of trees that are harvested every 10 years, they are worthless for anything else other than paper making.

paper plates, 

Gotta say for picnics, etc. they make lots of sense and I don't want to carry around dirty dishes, for use at home, I think people too lazy to wash dishes should do what i did when i was single, eat it out of the pan that it was cooked in.

cars that were made to fall apart once the last payment was made,

Planned obsolescence, practiced more today than ever before and rightly so because the technology progresses much faster, Cars are safer, I would not want to be driving a modern era car and be t-boned by a 63 Impala, we would all die.

attorneys advertising to compensate you for diseases you didn't know you had, 

The flip side of that is that the Drug makers, Hospitals and Doctors killed people w/o much happening to them in the past, the growth of personal injury lawyers and product liability lawyers is a direct result of these others being irresponsible in their behavior.  Thalidomide baby anyone?
Second, juries make the awards and set punitive damages, one case at a time, juries, US, each case is different and if the damaged or dead party was your loved one, your view changes.

Thirdly, these attorneys take all the risk, it is their money, time, talent and education put on the line for 35% of the reward, 99% do not accept cases where victory isn't a sure thing, it cost millions to bring a big case to trail.

and the consumers being told the creditors are evil for the harassing calls when they are asking to get back the money per the terms the consumer borrowed them,

You got that one right, don't borrow if you can't repay.

kids suing their parents for disciplining them or not buying them a PS3, 

Some people should just not be allowed to have kids and they are the ones who usually have 4 or more.

adults suing McDonalds for spilling the hot coffee they ordered, 

I know the facts of this case, the coffee was 210 degrees when served, 50 degrees hotter than normal.

She was burned so badly that her labia received 2nd degree burns, clumsiness is no excuse for disfigurement.

and my favorite, criminals suing the home/business owners for getting hurt while they were committing criminal activity.

I agree, I see no valid reason why we can't set booby traps and those are illegal as well.

As a society, we have been choosing short term gain over long term benefit for about 40-50 years....and each administration since then has kept it going.
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I agree, we seem to learn little from our mistakes and continue to make the same ones over and over.

Michael Shortt

>Curt knew we couldn't resist taking the bait he was throwing out.
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>Peter Kovacs
>209 345-6708
>209 436-2000 fx
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>From: Matt Bradley <apollo73 at yahoo.com>
>To: detomaso at realbig.com
>Sent: Thu, November 19, 2009 6:51:06 AM
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>Subject: [DeTomaso] Very little Pantera content
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>I know the popular thing is to continue to blame Bush for all of Obama's
>woes, but the truth is that a big part of this goes back to the Cilnton
>administration, Alan Greenspan and congress (many of whom are still in
>office acting like they had nothing to do with it).  Look up credit default
>swaps and see what I mean.  Or read this:
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>http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/08/19/60minutes/main4546199.shtml
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>>doug sedon sedon
>>Thu Nov 19 08:33:57 CST 2009
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>>what a short-term memory everyone has, about the fact that the prior
>>administration's policies are what caused the bottom to fall out of the
>>economy
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