[DeTomaso] Windsor Cleveland water pump difference?

[Asa Jay Laughton]

The electric pump that Kirby was talking about recently (and I have 
notes on somewhere but can't find at the moment) is a generic unit from 
the company that makes them.  What is different are the pieces that 
attach to the block.  If you want to buy the system for a Cleveland, you 
need to give them a call and ask for the Cleveland specific bits and 
when I checked they are not listed on the web site, but Kirby (and 
others if I recall) assured me if you call, they will get you the right 
parts.

You get two plates with the appropriate hose bibs or nipples that attach 
to the front of the block, no big assembly sticking out the front.  Then 
you route hoses from there to the pump and from the pump to the 
radiator, etc.  Kirby has some nice photos and the web site has even 
more.  (were they Mezier?)

Anyway... if you then relocate the alternator, you can get away with 
nearly a totally flat firewall.

An for what it's worth, this is installed on Kirby's GT-40 replica (I 
forget which brand, sorry), and appears to keep cooling just fine even 
on the track.  Though I'm sure Mad Dog will say something about going in 
circles rather than 90 miles one way.  ;)

If I had the funds (and after last year I simply don't), I'd look into 
this for myself.

Asa Jay

Asa Jay Laughton, MSgt, USAFR, Retired

& Shelley Marie
Spokane, WA

1971 Mach I Mustang  [ASA JAY]
1973 Pantera L 5533  [ASASCAT]
    
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JDeRyke at aol.com wrote:
> In a message dated 11/12/09 4:40:40 PM, kenn_green at yahoo.com writes:
>
>   
>> I noticed that the same electric pumps appear to be used on both Windsors 
>> and Clevelands.  Is the only difference in the stanard pumps related to 
>> the Cleveland thermostat?
>>
>>     
> The physical shape of the 351C and 351-W pumps are different requiring 
> different gaskets and bolt lengths. They can not interchange. Electric pumps on 
> the other hand are adapted units and thus CAN fit either block if you go to 
> the trouble of doing so. Some electric pumps don't even bolt to the engine 
> but are in-line on a water pipe or attach directly to the radiator, so what 
> block is used has no influence. I have little experience with electric water 
> pumps beyond having seen two in operation. Both were attached to 351-C 
> engines and both engines were in a mild state of tune, thus not generating much 
> extra heat. Good luck with this major adaption- J Deryke
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