[DeTomaso] need advice before I cry

Asa Jay Laughton asajay at asajay.com
Sun Nov 1 22:17:43 EST 2009


By the way, I found one of those handheld point and shoot thermometers a 
real blessing while doing this.  I picked one up from Napa, not the most 
expensive but it did what I needed it to do.

Asa Jay

Asa Jay Laughton, MSgt, USAFR, Retired

& Shelley Marie
Spokane, WA

1971 Mach I Mustang  [ASA JAY]
1973 Pantera L 5533  [ASASCAT]
    
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Asa Jay Laughton wrote:
> This sounds similar to what happened to me.  After doing some research I 
> found I didn't have near enough coolant in the system, even though 
> everything "looked" topped off.  I had an air pocket at the water pump 
> that was trapped there.  I pulled the thermostat to check it and found 
> it fine.  Before putting it all back together, I filled everything from 
> the thermostat hole, turning the water pump by hand as I did, until I 
> couldn't get any more coolant into the system.  Then I put the 
> thermostat back in, reassembled the rest and ran it.
>
> While running, I continued to monitor the swirl tank, filling it enough 
> to make sure the lower hose never saw air.  I got a couple of big bubble 
> eruptions and had to quickly refill just enough.  After a few of those, 
> it stopped overflowing and ran fine.  I let it run for a while longer 
> with no issues, capped the swirl tank and made sure I had a couple 
> quarts in the overflow.  It's been running fine.
>
> Asa Jay
>
> Asa Jay Laughton, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
>
> & Shelley Marie
> Spokane, WA
>
> 1971 Mach I Mustang  [ASA JAY]
> 1973 Pantera L 5533  [ASASCAT]
>     
> ******************************     
> http://www.asajay.com
> http://www.teampanteraracing.com
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>
> Justin Greisberg wrote:
>   
>> i am getting toward final stages of my restoration -- spent lots of time and money getting engine together, and ran it for first time a month ago.  ran fine, thermostat opened, and I think I got all air out of system.
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>> Today ran it for second time, getting ready to take maiden voyage around neighborhood.  Temp gauge in dash climbs gradually up to 190, then keeps going.  I have a second temp sensor hooked up to EFI system in thermostat upper pipe, and that reads 160, so I figure must be air in block still and run it a little more.  Dash gauge temp goes steadily up to 260 (end of reading), and temp sensor in upper pipe remains at 180.  car runs fine, and I wonder if dash gauge is no good (but it worked fine on maiden run few weeks ago).
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>> Then steam comes out valve breather cap and water starts leaking out head gasket just a little, so I shut off.  
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>> The upper thermostat pipe got hot, the expansion tank got hot but did not pressurize and the radiator did not get hot.  All new everything.  
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>> What the heck happened?  Only thing I can figure is that my new moto rad fail safe cleveland thermostat (not windsor) which opened fine last month, did not open, and engine cooked itself.  I have these nice CHI aluminum heads (mucho Dollars) and now I pray they survived.
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>> Any freakin thoughts what is wrong here?  
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>> I have a third temp sensor in the water pump itself, and that also read 160-180 the whole time!  But I have heard that sensors in the pump are not reliable because of the turbulence there.  
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>> Justin
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