[DeTomaso] Fw: (NPC) Now, how many of you have import marque cars sitting in your garages?(was: How can this happen in America)

Wed May 27 19:02:54 EDT 2009

It's not fair if taxpayers have to pay for early retirements for some and not others.
Will

Your leaders have determined that it will be that way.  You just have to pay for it.  People have discovered that you can vote for a welfare society and don't care anything about the security of the country.  If they could get a new flat screen knowing this will be a wasteland in fifty years, they'll take the TV.  I've always been amazed at the group of people who came together and formed what became this country.  There has never been anything remotely like it in the world, but they also knew it wouldn't last forever...or could last

forever.  Jefferson knew how it would come about...............

"Experience hath shown, that even under the best forms of government those entrusted with power have, in time, and by slow operations, perverted it into tyranny."   We've just tipped over that edge a few months ago.

 "A wise and frugal government, which shall leave men free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement, and shall not take from the mouth of labor the bread it has earned - this is the sum of good government."   "The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not".   Sound familiar?

"Information is the currency of democracy."  "Educate and inform the whole mass of the people... They are the only sure reliance for the preservation of our liberty."  The only info you get is sinfully biased by a misguided few who evidently want to see this experiment in democracy fail.  If I say anything about Obama I'm a racist or malcontent.  He knows this and is going to play it hard to the end.  Aw, who cares.

Michael...where's my TV?

> From: wdemelo at cogeco.ca
> To: detomaso at realbig.com
> Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 18:29:05 -0400
> Subject: [DeTomaso] Fw: (NPC) Now, how many of you have import marque cars sitting in your garages?(was: How can this happen in America)
> 
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Steve Hawkins" <shawkins777 at comcast.net>
> To: <detomaso at realbig.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2009 6:05 PM
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] (NPC) Now,how many of you have import marque cars 
> sitting in your garages?(was: How can this happen in America)
> 
> 
> > Sure it's fair, where is it written that everyone has to have exactly the
> > same anything. It's jealousy or maybe self pity to think that just 
> > because
> > someone retires earlier than me that it's not fair. I'm happy for anyone
> > that can retire early but that doesn't mean I don't think they should
> > because I can't. What I want to do is learn from their experience not 
> > deny
> > them the opportunity. That's the problem with our society today, everyone
> > wants guaranteed results and covets what their neighbor has. We've grown
> > lazy and want to take from those that have and redistribute it because 
> > they
> > don't deserve to have that much, I mean after all they couldn't have 
> > gotten
> > where they are honestly.
> >
> > It's called freedom, free to pursue happiness, freedom of opportunity, 
> > free
> > from tyranny, free from taxation, freedom from an oppressive government.
> > Everyone needs to go back and read the Constitution and the Bill of 
> > Rights.
> >
> > Steve
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com] 
> > On
> > Behalf Of pantdino at aol.com
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2009 11:25 AM
> > To: detomaso at realbig.com
> > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Now, how many of you have import marque cars 
> > sitting
> > in your garages? (was: How can this happen in America)
> >
> >
> > If everyone has their medical care paid for with tax dollars, it would
> > be fair
> > It's not fair is some people retire at 52 and some at 67
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Gray Gregory <rgg at gregorycook.com>
> > To: pantdino at aol.com <pantdino at aol.com>; detomaso at realbig.com
> > <detomaso at realbig.com>
> > Sent: Wed, 27 May 2009 8:38 am
> > Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] Now, how many of you have import marque cars
> > sitting in your garages? (was: How can this happen in America)
> >
> >
> >
> > But you don't mind paying for all his medical bills with your tax
> > dollars???
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com
> > [mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com] On
> > Behalf Of pantdino at aol.com
> > Sent: Monday, May 25, 2009 11:03 PM
> > To: detomaso at realbig.com
> > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Now, how many of you have import marque cars
> > sitting in
> > your garages? (was: How can this happen in America)
> >
> > I don't hate anyone-- I just don't think it's fair and don't want to pay 
> > for
> > it with my tax bailout dollars.
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Brent Stewart <bjbstewart at yahoo.com>
> > To: pantdino at aol.com; detomaso at realbig.com
> > Sent: Mon, 25 May 2009 8:55 pm
> > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Now, how many of you have import marque cars 
> > sitting
> > in your garages? (was: How can this happen in America)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Don't hate the playa, hate the game. He signed up for a plan that allowed
> > him to do that - change the rules...
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ----------
> > --------------------------------------------------
> > From: "pantdino at aol.com" <pantdino at aol.com>
> > To: detomaso at realbig.com
> > Sent: Monday, May 25, 2009 6:36:37 PM
> > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Now, how many of you have import marque cars 
> > sitting
> > in your garages? (was: How can this happen in America)
> >
> >
> > That's my understanding, too. No company can survive paying for full 
> > health
> > care for its workers and its retirees, especially when they "retire" after
> > 30 years. A friend's brother retired at 52 with full health care for the
> > rest of his life. How can they afford that? They can't, as we have now
> > learned.
> >
> > Why should he be able to retire at 52 when the rest of us have to work 
> > until
> > 65 or 67?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: doug sedon <sedond at yahoo.com>
> > To: de tomaso digest <detomaso at realbig.com>
> > Cc: fresnofinches at aol.com
> > Sent: Mon, 25 May 2009 5:21 p
> > m
> > Subject: [DeTomaso] Now, how many of you have import marque cars sitting 
> > in
> > your garages? (was: How can this happen in America)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > i would prefer to buy a car (or anything, for that matter), from a company
> > whose ceo's earn only 30 times what their employees make, instead of 300
> > times. ya, i am a pinko commie, remember? so, while i happen to think,
> > cars sold in america manufactured by companies who are based in america, 
> > do
> > not compare, for the most part, to cars made by non-usa owned companies, i
> > likely still wouldn't w anna buy them even if i thought they weren't bad
> > deals.
> >
> > but, what is sinking the american auto industry isn't the fact that their
> > ceo's are overpaid, or even the fact that their product isn't as good. 
> > (way
> > too many hillbillies in this country that will buy anything as long as 
> > it's
> > made in the
> > usa.) ;~) it's the fact that the commie pinko auto trade unions were able
> > to demand and get healthcare & retirement packages for themselves. the
> > rest of the commie pinko industrialized world, (ya know: france, germany,
> > japan, canada - pinko places like that?), well those pinko places all have
> > universal health care, so the companies there don't have to pick up the
> > tab... if the usa had commie pinko single-payer healthcare, gm & chrysler
> > would still be stong & turning a profit... making that dreck... :>)
> >
> > ymmv,=0
> > D
> >
> > doug s.,
> > '72 de tomaso panera
> > '78 ducati darmah
> > '85.5 alfa romeo gtv6 3.0
> > '95 buell s2 (america, love it or leave it! yeah!)
> > '04 scion xb
> >
> >
> >
> >
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